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Posted 10/09/2010   10:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add vega to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi everybody ,

Can anyone tell me what are these stamps end where I can find them in the Scott catalogue.

Thanks a lot .

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Posted 10/09/2010   11:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kirks to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello Vega:

I'm sorry, but I know nothing of Chinese stamps. But SCF is a great place, full of friendly and knowledgeable folks. Someone will have an answer for you soon.

While you're waiting, please go to the Introductions forum and post a note there about yourself so everyone can get to know you.

Welcome to SCF.
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Posted 10/09/2010   11:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tinus_NL to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
They look like the 1938 Sun Yatsen issue, although these shouldn't be cut like that. Could then be the non-perf war issue (1943-44) but I can't find a non-perf $5.00 stamp. Someone with a better idea of Chinese stamps can surely help you better than I can.
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Posted 10/09/2010   11:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Welcome to Stamp Community Forum, Vega!

The pic is too small for me to type it, but if it is unwatermarked type III, then it is probably the known printer's waste for that issue -- characterized by the fact that they are IMPERFORATE. Scott's editorial policy is that they do not assign catalog numbers for "printer's waste".

Still, a nice stamp to have in your collection. And, it's ORANGE!

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Posted 10/09/2010   11:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If you look in the Scott catalog, there is a footnote after China #363 that mentions the printer's waste.
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Posted 10/10/2010   2:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add vega to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks all for your answers. I get the footnote after China #363 :)
It seems to be the correct reference for this stamp.

There is no information about the center error of the second stamp. I don't know if this error often happened or if it's something rare. Is there another catalog that could help me concerning errors subject ? or what is your opinion about that ?

Thanks again for your answer, in particular khj ... yes it's ORANGE lol

Cheers
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Posted 10/10/2010   3:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Printer's waste are stamps that were rejected by the printer because of production problems. You will note that in both stamps, the portrait is poorly centered in the oval. The printer pulled these sheets and didn't bother perforating them. When the printer doesn't catch the error, completes production, and it makes it through to the post office and gets sold over the counter, then it is accepted by EFO collectors as a "legitimate error". I know, it sounds strange, because a production error is a production error. However, many catalogs, such as Scott, refuse to assign catalog numbers to printer's waste. There are even cases in which Scott originally assigned a catalog number, and then removed the catalog number after the error was deemed printer's waste -- in other words, it was determined that the error stamps were not obtained through purchase through the post office, but by "some other" means. There is an ethics issue involved, which is why so many major EFO dealers/collectors refuse to openly buy/sell printer's waste, although they might own some.

As far as I'm concerned, your stamp is certainly a keeper, even if not accepted/priced by the editors of the catalog. It's a great conversation piece, and, it's ORANGE!
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Posted 10/10/2010   7:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

For the Gibbons tribe:
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Posted 10/10/2010   10:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ma's Illustrated Catalogue of the Stamps of China, indicates tha this is Ma 1005. The shift is not noted but it is noted that this stamp was not offically issued without the surcharge.
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Posted 10/11/2010   06:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rohumpy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello, vega, and welcome. SCF is a great place for stamps and info. Someone here always knows the answer to a question.
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Posted 10/11/2010   11:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ZhangCheng to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Mike, I can not ID this imperforate stamp, and can not find out its information in the Ma's 2010 Chinese language edition. The prototype/normal of this imperforate stamp looks like Ma's #437(Scott #361), what about your opinion?
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Posted 10/11/2010   11:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ZhangCheng to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
vega,

Below it is an auction ended at half hour ago:
http://www.zhaoonline.com/detail/au...detail.shtml
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Posted 10/11/2010   9:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have done further reading, Ma's has no indication of a fully imperforate stamp mentioned of this design or variation of this design.
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Posted 10/11/2010   10:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ZhangCheng to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Mike, thanks for the clarification.
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Posted 10/14/2010   04:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add vega to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi :)

Another mystery fore me

What is this cover ? it isn't mentionned in the scott...
I try to find information on the net but nobody knows what this cover is.
However it seems to be a commemorative cover because the cover looks like the stamps who are "proclamation of the commune" .....

Someone has an idea about that ?
Khj ? it's not orange but .....



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Posted 10/14/2010   05:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's a First Day Cover for the 90th Anniversary of the Paris Commune set, of 18 March 1961, postmarked at Beijing.

What is the difficulty about it?
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