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Posted 08/03/2011   12:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You're right James, I guess they do have the art nouveau look
about them similar to these Austrian ones issued in 1922.

Designer : Wilhelm Dachauer who worked until mid century.

Scott 256




Scott 265




Scott P54




Scott QE8

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Posted 08/03/2011   2:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nitrolures to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If I remember my printing days the "lino type" was cast either 70/30 lead/ tin or 60/40 lead tin allowing ease to carve and shape yet some hardness to last. I actually bought nearly a ton of this type and melted it all down into lures but have seen pcs that can be dated and placed to a certain image or event sell for moon money at auctions. Imagine the work involved type setting a full newspaper page line by line sometimes letter by letter. Even in stamp usage it looks like several different pcs went into the final image such as text and borders but I guess that could have been all done in one solid pc. Very interesting Lost art.
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Posted 08/03/2011   7:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nitro thanks for your technical knowledge.

Funny, when I finished high school I wanted to apprentice
at a print shop but it didn't happen.

I think it worked out for the better though.
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Russia (Soviet Union, USSR) has issued typography stamp right from the beginning back in 1857 plus
in just about every print method available.

Over the years their presses printed Typography, Lithography (Offset), Enraved, Photogravure and combination prints
such as Photogravure & Engraved, Lithographed & Engraved, Litho & Embossed, even Litho & Typo combined.

For Expo 67 Russia issue 3 stamps in Lithography and a Souvenir Sheet in Typography.

Scott 3298




Here is a quote from a Linns Weekly article refering to Typography


Quote:
Relief printing, like line-engraving, can cause distortions in the back of the stamp as the raised portions of the plate press into the paper.
The distortion in a relief stamp, however, results in a raised image on the back of the stamp rather than a depressed image on the back as in line engraving.

Another notable characteristic of relief-printed stamps is an excess of color around the edges of lines in the design.

This is caused as the ink is squeezed outward and over the vertical edge of the printing surface when pressure is applied by the ink roller.
When the paper is pressed against the relief, the excess ink at the edges of the design is transferred to the paper.

This halo effect is usually evident under strong magnification.

Relief-printed stamps usually do not have very fine lines because there is not enough material on the plate to support the fine lines,
and the rigor of the printing process would quickly degrade the plate.

Fine and intricate detail is virtually impossible with this method of printing.









Here is Scott 3297 from the same issue but printed via Lithography








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Here is an image of another old stamp from my boyhood collection: "Carib archer," designed by R. Tillet, engraved by Antonin Delzers, printed by typography, and first issued for use in French Guiana on February 4, 1929, Scott No. 110.

- nethryk

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I prefer Engraved to Litho personally but some have a certain charm.

Here are some from the Goya set that included both Litho and Engraved and some featuring General Franco.



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Great stamps here

Nethryk, the Madagascar Sakalava chief stamp is quite striking, it almost looks 3d!
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Posted 08/04/2011   5:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Anthony, I agree with you 100%, I also prefer most engraved
stamps over typography or lithography.
Then again some typography stamps have a certain charm all their own;
take nethryk's Carib archer for example.


Quote:
Here are some from the Goya set that included both Litho and Engraved and some featuring General Franco.


According to Michel all the Goya ones you showed are Typo not
Litho.
Perhaps a typo ?

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Posted 08/04/2011   5:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add AnthonyUK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That info was from Scotts so could be incorrect but Edifil also says the same.
They look like Litho.
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Posted 08/04/2011   5:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This my favourite typograhy stamp.

GB Edward VII 2d Tyrian plum. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward..._Tyrian_plum
Even the name harks back to the ancient city of Tyre were rare purple
dye was produced from a local shellfish.




I hope Her Majesty won't mind me showing the pic here.
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Posted 08/04/2011   5:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nitrolures to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I did apprentice as a printer but on a large 5 color webb press to run newspapers and magazines. However I did play around with a few sheet fed presses that were 1 color at a time but being litho a quick ink and plate change and miracles appeared. The company had a type set press in the basement that was from an old newspaper company that literally was cranked by hand and I always wondered when they went bankrupt what happened to that beauty. The automation in todays print shops really makes me wonder how and why errors and even misregistrations occur on todays stamps. The last shop I was in with a new hiedelburg 6 station press was literally run from a control panel and would automatically allign and register within a minute or two. Sad but the craft is also mostly overseas like many other quality jobs.
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BeeSee - Thanks.

Medals and Orders of the Great Patriotic War, set of six stamps designed by A. Mandrussov, printed by typography, and issued by the USSR (Russia) on January 4, 1945, Scott Nos. 960-65.

- nethryk

Partisan Medal


Medal for Bravery


Order of Bogdan Chmielnicki


Order of Victory


Order of Ushakov


Order of Nakhimov
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Posted 08/04/2011   7:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
At first glance those Soviet ones look like engraved but then
you notice the blotchy colour in the box around the numerals
as for example the 45k.

I've noticed on my scans though that the characteristics of
a typography stamps are not as evident as viewing
the actual stamp.

Higher magnification would help though.
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Posted 08/05/2011   1:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A couple more Soviet Union (Russia) stamps which are very good examples
of typography.

Scott 3207

Notice the uneven lines & pointed 4 where the ink protruded
and the blotchy effect on the red lettering.





Scott 2981



The printing actually fits the ugly designs of so many stamps
of the Soviet era. I find them Stalinesque.
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This Austrian set was issued in 1915 during WWI and the surcharge
was used to aid war widows and orphans

Designer : Koloman Moser ( 1868 – 1918)

Engraver : Ferdinand Schirnböck (1859-1930)

Print : Typography/ Letterpress

Scott B3 - B7









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