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Posted 01/24/2014   1:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add floortrader to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I need help on the Belgium Official Stamps 1929-1942 ,these are the wheel with wings overprints .Does anybody have a reference source to identify the different types of forgeries and are there different types of original overprints .
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Posted 01/24/2014   2:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dianne Earl to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If no one has answered before I get home from work I will check for you.

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Posted 01/24/2014   3:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CollGStamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
How about a look in Scott (Belgium: Parcel Post and railway stamps)?
Regular issues of 1912-1913 overprinted in violet .
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Posted 01/25/2014   07:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
CollGStamps ------not the issue were looking at ,these are Official Stamps on the regular issues of 1921-1938.Looking for a study or posting about the overprint .
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Posted 01/25/2014   11:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't have the COB catalogue but someone here does...maybe by bumping this it'll bring it back to the top and it will get noticed.

The index to the World Forgeries Catalogue says that the 1929 officials have been forged. I tried a little Googling with that bit of specific info, to no avail.
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Posted 01/25/2014   12:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bujutsu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Floortrader, you might want to give this site a try?

http://www.filatelia.fi/experts/

it is WW and quite extensive.


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Posted 01/25/2014   7:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
thanks BUJUTSU, I am not finding anything about the forgeries ,Scott catalog states forgeries exist but no identification as to how to sort the difference .I will try to contact the APS Library ,but will post some of my ideas because most pre-1940 collectors most likely have a few of them .
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Posted 01/25/2014   10:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
with the lack of any references as to fakes and forgeries ,here is a preliminary of what im thinking .The first stamp is real and the others are fakes both in design and color differrences .

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Posted 01/25/2014   10:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So far I got color differences and the second stamp shows a smaller wheel ,the third and fourth has the tips of the feathers group together as the real stamp shows the top right wing feather sticks out away from the other feathers .Since this overprint was used over a extended period of time and used on different designs of stamps ,im not sure if other dies where used. But there are a few different forgeries done .Will continue it tomorrow .
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Posted 01/26/2014   12:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The site I referenced above cites Billig's Forgeries Handbook 40 as the source of information for the 1929 Forgeries.

Might give you a starting point with APS.
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Posted 01/26/2014   12:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bujutsu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks floortrader. Had you not shown the varieties of the different overprints, I don't think I would have known them.

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Posted 02/02/2014   12:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a clear picture of the different fakes ,the first stamp is the real one and the others are different types of forgeries

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Posted 02/03/2014   7:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
nice example of a real overprint and to the right, one of the four different types of fake overprint.

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