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US 231 Broken Hat And Other Varieties

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Posted 03/27/2014   01:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Partime to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I just picked up a hoard of stamps, separated very nicely into Broken hat and other 2 cent versions. While my Scott's Specialized is helpful, it doesn't do justice to the many varieties listed for the 2 cent stamp. They list double transfer, triple transfer, quadruple transfer, Broken Hat, Broken Frame Line, Recut frame lines, and cracked plate. I'll try to post a few varieties as I find them, but I would like some help. Can you post your special versions also?

Here is a classic Broken Hat, but I also detect some issues with the left side. Is this a Double Transfer?



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Posted 03/27/2014   06:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is one I have on cover



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Posted 03/27/2014   07:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I_L_S: You've piqued my curiosity on that Springer Torsion Balance Co. advertising cover. If you look very carefully, you'll see the name of (presumably) the printer of that envelope in the space just below the image of the scale. It loses too much to blow up your image to read it. At first glance it looked like "New York H? Lithograph? Co.", but then on closer inspection it doesn't appear that the word "Lithograph" is correct.

(A higher resolution scan may reveal the answer.)
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Posted 03/27/2014   07:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like New York (Safety?) Electrotype Co.
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After I get my daughter o the bus I'll re-scan that section at a high resolution for you wt1 plus, it'll just give me a reason to mess around with my cover collection!
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Posted 03/27/2014   08:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
OK here you be good sir!

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Posted 03/27/2014   09:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks.

I found it!





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Side-by-side comparisons of the 2-cent Columbian, Scott #231, with normal printing on left, and double transfer on right:



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This is a full view of the double-transfer stamp on the right side of the two images above. It also happens to be a broken hat variety:


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Detail of the Columbus broken hat, with surrounding figures. It's amazing how crude this engraving looks closeup.

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This is a "slip transfer" type of double transfer. For some reason when the transfer roll was rocking in the position it slipped a bit occasionally on the right half of the stamp. So sometimes it rocked in the correct position and sometimes the slipped position. Sometimes the transfer "twisted" a bit and produced double transfers that way. And sometimes the siderographer made a mistake and entered the position in the wrong location and it was not burnished out entirely; those are usually the major double transfers.
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Posted 03/27/2014   10:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Side-by-side comparisons of the 2-cent Columbian, Scott #231, with normal printing on left, and double transfer on right


Classic ... thanks so much for posting your example. It is apparent that a double transfer does not have to cover the entire stamp ... just a section will do. I'll post a few more of mine later as I have seen the DT on the left side and the right side. (And these are just on the broken hat variety.)

Anyone with an example of a triple or quadruple transfer? That would be neat to see. Also, I'd love to see what the "recut fame lines" entails.
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Double transfers almost never cover the entire stamp. Even the "all over double transfers" usually only show up in the lettering and numerals, which are usually the deepest parts of the design.
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revcollector,


Quote:
This is a "slip transfer" type of double transfer.

Thanks for the explanation of a slip transfer.
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OK, as promised, here are a few more. Another Double Transfer on the Left Side (Color enhanced)



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Posted 03/28/2014   12:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And, a Double Transfer only on the Right Side





(To me, this is an odd shift as the right line disappears half-way down)
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