1c 1851 Plate 1-Late Stamps

I have a Used pair of Scott #7's, and I'm trying to Plate. I believe these are both Relief B, 48/49L2 based primarily on the guide dot location and spacing. But 28/29L2 were also candidates.

widget1 - Take a look at 22/23R2. I think the guide dot, spacing, and relative alignment is a better match for your pair. 21R2 also meets these same criteria for the partially visible stamp to the lef tof your pair.

Thanks Widglo46, super helpful!

Also wanted to share this strip of three #9 I acquired. Didn't realize when I purchased, but this was a great set - 71L1L through 73L1L. 71L is a triple transfer with one inverted, and both 72L and 73L are double transfers. Great add to my collection, and just plain fun to find these little gems.

Widget1,
I believe that the pair shown above is 62-63R2.
Here are some closeups with your pair and the Neinken drawings.
The dot on the second image is not in the position shown on the Neinken drawing, but close.
The guide dots match.

Moved post to plate 2 thread.

widget1 - On closer examination, I agree with jaxom100. See my post on the the Plate 2 thread.

Jaxom1000, this time I'll keep it to Plate 1L :)

Found two more in my Collection:

84R1L (Recut Top and Double Bottom (EC); and
34L1L (Double Transfer with a slight shift)

Pretty sure this is an 11RIL

I agree with 11R1L.

Hey all,

This is one I asked for help on a month or so ago. Jaxom gave me some good guidance on where to start. This was a tough one to plate because of the high cut on the bottom and the flaw at the apex of the top recut. But I think I pinned this done to a 32L1L. It was tough call, but this was the closest match I could identify. I based this primarily on the top recut match as well as a small spot on the top of the "S" in "U.S." that seems to appear in the ID picture, as well as the other two examples in the database. But could always use a second set of eyes.

Thanks,
Josh

I believe I have identified another Plate 1L stamp in collection. This #9 has been recut twice at the top, which made the search fairly straightforward. I have tentatively identified this one as a 77L1L.

This stamp was offered as an ordinary #7. I was interested because it is a top row copy and that makes plating easier. But when I saw the certificate I became even more interested.

The certificate shows the stamp was already plated, as a 4R1L. For those who don't recognize this position, plate 1L ("Late") is the 1852 plate where every position on the plate was recut, creating Type IV, otherwise known as Scott #9. Every position was recut except for one. Position 4R1L was not recut, thus it is the lone Scott #7 on the sheet surrounded by 199 Scott #9's. This position is listed in the Scott Specialized with a CV of nearly 2.5x the ordinary #7. So the price I paid was reasonable for a normal #7, but a great deal for this desirable position. As an added bonus, the stamp is Ex-Koppersmith.

Van had a wonderful stamp collection.
I recall drooling over his sale.
Siegel sale 765, your stamp is lot 105.

congrats.

Neat. Thanks for finding the listing in the Siegel catalog.

I just plated this one to, hopefully, 81L1L, which Scott lists with a nice premium as a Triple Transfer One Inverted.
Thanks jaxom100, and to others who contributed images to the StampSmarter database. I couldn't have done it (so easily) without you.
I started with a search for 'recut top only', then narrowed it down to the ones where the LR guide dot matched closest, then I looked for other matching details, starting with the lines in the E of ONE.
Thanks again, that was fun, and with a nice reward at the end. Too bad the left margin is cut so close.

Here is a 81L for comparison. Nice piece


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