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New South Wales 5d & 8d Imperf Diadems

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Posted 01/19/2019   11:45 pm  Show Profile Check fairdinkumstamps's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add fairdinkumstamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know if they intend to upload those districts or whether they are available.

The current display has been there for a while.

Maybe try the email on the display page or contact Philas House.
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Posted 01/20/2019   5:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for that, I'll drop them a line and let you know what they advise.
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Posted 01/21/2019   6:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rumplstampskin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wonderful write up Bobby !

I will be using it for future reference for my NSW collection very informative .

Well Done
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Posted 02/06/2019   5:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This thread, in particular the first 5d diadem scan on page 1, has caught the attention of the Australian board.

It has been mentioned that the 5d diadem on piece is a forgery and on closer inspection it is. This forgeries site gives every indication that this one is by Oneglia:

https://stampforgeries.com/new-sout...en-victoria/

I found the image on stampauctionnetwork. It was part of the Neal Allen collection (Shreves #61 April 3, 2004, lot 478) and was again auctioned by Dutch Country Auctions last year (sale #316, lot 782). The description in both auctions stated that the stamp came with a 1988 PF certificate! Caveat emptor indeed.....

Robson Lowe (Australasia p.40) lists the two shades: dull green - slightly bluish & dull green. He offered no price for the former in used condition. He states the former "is usually found with the watermark inverted and reversed, but there is little difference in the two shades when in unused condition."

The scans below are from the Alvorado collection, auctioned by Spink in 2010. They hopefully will offer some indication of the shade difference.



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Posted 10/19/2019   5:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's another imperf that's been faked. Hopefully the purchaser will see this thread.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/352821916460



Cross reference with Lot 2 of the McCredie collection, auctioned by Millennium:

https://millenniumauctions.com.au/s...t_auction=50

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Posted 10/19/2019   9:03 pm  Show Profile Check fairdinkumstamps's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add fairdinkumstamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Cross reference with Lot 2 of the McCredie collection, auctioned by Millennium:


The stamps on that page are incorrectly labelled as 'De La Rue' diadems.

The diadem stamps were designed by Levinge and re-drawn by Corbould. The dies were engraved by Humphrys so that plates could be manufactured by the printers, Perkins, Bacon & Company.

Interestingly, in Bassett Hull's famous 1911 work on the stamps of New South Wales, R.B.Yardley notes that the 24 mm diagonal sans-serif SPECIMEN overprint "occurs on certain imperforate specimens of the 5d., 6d., and 1s., watermarked double-line numerals, in the collection of Messrs. Stanley Gibbons, Ltd.".

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https://www.fairdinkumstamps.com Fair Dinkum Stamps - Specialising in stamps from early Australia and the colonies, Australian philatelic literature, catalogues, stockbooks and accessories.
Edited by fairdinkumstamps - 10/19/2019 9:04 pm
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Posted 04/23/2020   10:49 pm  Show Profile Check fairdinkumstamps's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add fairdinkumstamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a slideshow I just posted that contains some of the background to the NSW five pence diadem, extracted from Basset Hull's book. It also has some nice scans of the five pence diadem engraving detail. It's fairly lengthy - enjoy 'The Blue Danube' (composed 1866) twice! :)

HHhZVuucZhs
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https://www.fairdinkumstamps.com Fair Dinkum Stamps - Specialising in stamps from early Australia and the colonies, Australian philatelic literature, catalogues, stockbooks and accessories.
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Posted 04/24/2020   02:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Brilliant!

Elegant music for an elegant stamp.

Well done FDS!
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Posted 04/24/2020   02:57 am  Show Profile Check fairdinkumstamps's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add fairdinkumstamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Bobby De La Rue :) . Youtube only has limited copyright free music in their library but a classic waltz composed in 1866 seemed to accompany that beautiful stamp nicely.
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https://www.fairdinkumstamps.com Fair Dinkum Stamps - Specialising in stamps from early Australia and the colonies, Australian philatelic literature, catalogues, stockbooks and accessories.
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Posted 09/17/2020   5:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's another trimmed down 8d that's come to my attention, via the Australian board.



An upper right corner example with four margins.

The cancellation is White D16, introduced in 1885, thus making it all but impossible to be a genuine imperf.

At any rate, the shade looks incorrect too.
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