Stamp Community Family of Web Sites
Thousands of stamps, consistently graded, competitively priced and hundreds of in-depth blog posts to read
Stamp Community Forum
 
Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?

Welcome Guest! Need help? Got a question? Inherit some stamps?
Our stamp forum is completely free! Register Now!

Help - Argentina 1858 Provincial Stamps

 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 8 / Views: 3,312Next Topic  
New Member

United States
2 Posts
Posted 11/27/2009   10:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add BudO to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
[img]I've had these Buenos Aires 1858 Provincials in my childhood collection since the late 1940s - early 1950s. They're unhinged and uncancelled.

Are they authentic? Value estimates?


http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/...aireslot.jpg
Send note to Staff

Pillar Of The Community
USA
1881 Posts
Posted 11/27/2009   10:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nr-notrare to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Bud.....

Welcome to the club.......according to Scott these have been reprinted several times and counterfeits are abundant.....also, who would give a child expensive stamps ?
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
Canada
907 Posts
Posted 11/27/2009   10:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add WpgLwr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You know, it's funny that these show up in a lot of old-time collections, and chances are they're fake because they've been reprinted so many times, but I've yet to have ever seen one that is "certified" (whether professionally or on the assurance of someone in the know) in order to make a comparison.

Does anyone have a real one, or at least the image of a real one for comparison's sake?
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
Canada
907 Posts
Posted 11/27/2009   10:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add WpgLwr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Never mind, here's some, found online...

Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
New Member
United States
2 Posts
Posted 11/27/2009   11:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BudO to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's very possible that these came from one of the mail order companies like Grolier. It's also possible that they came in trade between kids.

As to "who would give a child expensive stamps" I also have a very nice assortment of 1800s British Colonies, mostly cancelled, which hold some very interesting values which I also secured back in that era. My practice as a kid was to trade my "pretty stamps" of animals, cars, planes, etc for your ugly old beat up relics of stamps.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
Canada
907 Posts
Posted 11/27/2009   11:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add WpgLwr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, me too. It's amazing how many kids wound up with their grandfather's stamp collections and decided to use them as trading stock...
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
576 Posts
Posted 11/30/2009   10:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cgrotha to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The good news is that your stamps do not have the characterfistics of the most common old forgeries. However they may be a more modern version. The most likely would be that they are less valuable reprints on thick, handmade paper or lithos on thinner paper. Of course, there always expertization for a fee, or having a specialist collector look at them for you or a specialist dealer may help you out. You can also 'google' "argentine forgeries postage stamps" and see what you get. Good luck.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
6744 Posts
Posted 11/30/2009   10:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
BudO,

Welcome to Stamp Community Forum!

A quick glance at your Argentines, they appear to all be fakes. Without going into details for each specific stamp, but just a list of problems among the stamps:

-- paper is way too white/clean
-- "C" should not be touching/crossing the inner frame
-- waviness of frame is not correct
-- right frame is too bowed around FRANCO
-- sun rays and mast/lines appear identical on all your stamps (this is NOT true of the originals)

You are free to seek a paid expert opinion, but I believe you would be wasting your money.

Great space-fillers, though!

Kim
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Edited by khj - 11/30/2009 10:23 pm
Valued Member
Learn More...
New Zealand
238 Posts
Posted 12/11/2019   2:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lostandfound to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
even I have a set. oh but what a great thread!!
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
  Previous TopicReplies: 8 / Views: 3,312Next Topic  
 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.


Go to Top of Page
Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Stamp Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2020 Stamp Community Family - All rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Stamp Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Privacy Policy / Terms of Use    Advertise Here
Stamp Community Forum © 2007 - 2020 Stamp Community Forums
It took 0.23 seconds to lick this stamp. Powered By: Snitz Forums 2000 Version 3.4.05