The De LA Rue Stamps Of New South Wales

Thank you Rod & NSK

I have no issue with the work being placed on stampsmarter. Please let me know if there is anything you & Don need from me in this regard.

'Some of the single-lined 2 paper supplied was highly surfaced, as evidenced by Hutson's example postmarked 18th December 1863 at Corowa. He states this stamp is perforated 12½ but how could it be the same gauge (which is actually 12½-12¾) used in various colonies (eg: Trinidad, Bahamas) from mid 1863? No printings on this paper were done in London and Sydney did not have a 12½ gauge machine. The only suggestion I can offer is the stamp is perforated 12½-13 but happens to measure 12½ on all four sides. The perforations surely could not have been faked, as there is a fragment of the above stamp at the top left still attached.'

I'm very confused about this matter. I have about 80 copies of the 2d blue De La Rue, and a considerable number, including a few with single lined 2 watermark, are perforated 12 1/2, and a previous owner of the stamps marked them thus on the reverse. Whether or not Sydney owned a 12 1/2 gauge machine, the end result is that the stamps ARE 12 1/2.

I upload a scan of one of my copies, watermarked single-lined 2.

Hi jimjamtwo,

For many years as I'm sure you know, Gibbons have used "perf 13" to denote perf 12½-13 for stamps issued prior to 1888.

I have some that gauge 12½, others that gauge 12¾ and others that gauge the full 13.

Hutson clearly believed that his example was perforated with a different machine. I for one would love to know the basis for his belief!

Bobby,
Just finished reading. Will be sure to use as reference when I start sorting the NSW collection.

Thanks,
Pat

Thanks Pat

Bobby De La Rue, taking another look back at this great thread I wonder if you have a numeral 3 rideout machine cancel on a De La Rue stamp to show and also if you have examples of the three 1891 blue specimen overprints to compare to your 9d images above?

1s specimen telegraph form for sale



Bobby,

Our favourite Sydney dealer asks $A225 for this. Any value in it at that price?

fairdinkumstamps,

This would be considered very rare (Abacus 243, lot 470), and no, it's not mine:



Images of the blue specimen overprints on the 1891 surcharges are available via the Millennium (McCredie Lot 50) or Abacus (Prestige 181 Lot 1274 - Bell Collection) websites. I don't have examples of them in my collection.



64idgaf,

While it's not my place to discuss what a dealer should or should not ask for material, I can tell you he's asking $150 (assuming we're talking about the same dealer).

I paid $13 for my 1 shilling without the specimen overprint back in 2017. The image you show is much nicer condition than my sheet. They are very fragile and also not common. I do have both the 6d and 1/- cutouts with the specimen overprint. Juzwin has both sheets with the specimen overprint for sale for $75 each but, by the description, not in as nice condition, but still better than mine.

Bobby,

Some DLR proofs here: https://corinphila.ch/en/_auctions/...ots=1&page=2

John

Thanks 64idgaf but I'm getting a 404 for the link.

Are we talking about the Dubois collection?

That's the one

Do you know who the collector was?

Already archived for reference

There's certainly some amazing material in his auctions!

No idea who Dubois is. Many top flight collectors like to remain anonymous, as is their want.