Current Stanley Gibbons Great Britain Catalog

Is their current detailed GB catalog titled " 2023 Great Britain Concise Catalog" ?

Yes, but with the correct spelling of "catalogue".

https://www.dauwalders.co.uk/stanle...214317-p.asp

I presume that there'll be a 2024 edition, however.

The really detailed catalogues are the GB Specialised range.

Opps, darn spell check. haha. Ok, got it. tks. I was little confused , I originally was looking at a bookseller site and the info was not quite right. now I found a good write up on aps site. SG site is a tad confusing. but got it now. APS has a used concise , like new, 2021 for 30.00USD.

Tks

That is the most recent GB Concise. The 2024 Concise should be published in May.
Here is the link to their website for the 2023 Concise; https://www.stanleygibbons.com/prod...p-catalogue.




Collect British Stamps (2024) is a very basic list of stamps. Essentially, it is a checklist for a run-of-the-mill GB stamp album.
The GB Concise (2023) is much more detailed as you can see from the information in the link provided.

The most detailed that will help you to identify plates of the recess printed stamps, but that also will discern between the thick glazed paper and thin ordinary paper of your 4d stamp, is the 'Specialised.' This comes in five volumes: Queen Victoria, Four Kings, QEII pre-decimal, QEII decimal definitives, and QEII Decimal special stamps (out of print). Some of these are quite dated. They started a new series in 2020, where the Vol. 1 (QV) was split into two parts: recess printed and embossed issues (part 1) and the yet to be published surface printed issues (part 2).

https://www.stanleygibbons.com/prod...st-ed-part-1
https://www.stanleygibbons.com/prod...-vi-14th-e-3
https://www.stanleygibbons.com/prod...al-13th-ed-3
https://www.stanleygibbons.com/prod...-catalogue-3
https://www.stanleygibbons.com/prod...-catalogue-3

There are a few better alternatives to volume 4. The others are excellent, but will set you back quite a lot. The new Vol.1, part 1 is a must-have. I hope part 2 will as well.

Sorry, I thought I had it figured out.... Which one is the detailed info of my 4d stamp?? I have the SG QV Vol1 Part 1 , but it's not in there?? I do not see 4p QV in the other links.

The info is in the older Specialised Vol 1. They split that in two parts. Part 1 was issued in 2020. Part 2 was planned for 2021, but COVID-19 caused a delay. They, recently, deleted the line about the planned publication of part 2 and no longer mention a year.

I suppose after COVID-19, the Evergreen, the War in the Ukraine, the Gaza War, and some poor nanny tripping over a carpet have all delayed work on it. SG is in a bit of a mess when it comes to their publishing business.

The old Vol. 1 that came in one part is out of print. You might find a used example somewhere, or you should wait for the new part two to be published.

Ahh, got it. Thanks again.

Seems like I read somewhere that Stanley Gibbons filed for bankruptcy. and something about they lost $1.9 million the last 2 years Is this correct?

Yes, it appears to me to be a part of a series of 'exchanging hands' that they seem to have a history of doing.
Don

not to get too far astray from the topic but didn't they buy the one Stampsite (can't remember the original name) and operate it under the name "Bidstart for some years , then sold it back to Rosenberg? And he operates it under the name "Hipstamp"?

Yes. I think before Gibbons bought it, it was called 'StampWants.' Gibbons had little clue on how to operate the site and it rapidly tanked as buyers and sellers bailed out. Rosenberg bought it back to save it, renamed it HipStamp, and today it appears to be doing rather well (disclaimer: I have an active store there as well as being a buyer).

"Catalog" is the more streamlined American spelling, saving valuable time and ink. A sort of "fast food" English.

Among the many and various countries I collect is Great Britain, and I've found the Stanley Gibbons Concise catalogue to be perfectly adequate for my "one of each kind" type of collecting. In fact, to know more is just going to depress me. So I want none of it. One of each is all I want. Okay, maybe a small number of penny blacks and a few penny reds . . . and a few more of those other ones that all look alike to me . . . but that's it. Phosphors? Good lord!

That I don't have all those endless varieties the Brits have discovered is not something I even want to know. I honestly think no country on earth has delved more deeply into its postage stamps than Britain has, hence the full-length Stanley Gibbons British catalogue/catalog with its apparently endless listings of paper varieties, watermarks, perf differences, shades, phosphor coatings, and so on. It must be the weather. Keeping eveyone indoors does this sort of thing. Had we not rebelled in 1776, I'm sure that massive SG Britain catalog (hah!) would have made me want to.

U.S. collecting started down that same road in its beginning as you can see in the early listings of the Scott catalog. For a long time, each tiny alteration got its own major catalog number as though they were all different stamps when clearly any observer can see they are not -- until, after a few years, Scott managed to calm down a little and stop doing that so much. The Brits are still in a lather over these things. I'm sure it's all that rain. I mean how many Machins does one nation even need?

If your stamp is 4p then it's decimal post 1970. if its Victorian it's 4d a fourpenny stamp as opposed to 4pence or 4 penny. notice the slight pause bettween the number and the value if your talking decimal pennys. Decimal1p is equivalent to 2.4 d pre decimal in the pounds shillings and pence system which was kind of duodecimal.

Most of these varieties reflect changes in the way the post worked: automatic letter facing, tariff changes, weather conditions, efficiency, technical developments, a cat-and-mouse game with forgers, language acts, environmental considerations, convenience (self-adhesives). Where the UK, over a time of 70+ years used two sets (Wildings and Machins), of which the latter had just one simple design as permanent stamps and had even into the 1970s a limited number of commemorative issues, other countries vomited 'permanent' stamps. The consequence is that many of the changes in the workings of the post result in varieties in UK stamps when they coincide with the plethora of issues in other countries.

To each his own. Collecting the varieties will tell you how the post and even the world changed over time. On the other hand, Royal Mail considered those operational changes to existing stamps and not new stamps. Postal authorities do not tend to see the change in watermarks, phosphor, paper coating, etc., as the beginning of a new set. So, anyone who just collects one 3p ultramarine Machin has as much reason to do so as anyone who collects the dozens of varieties.

Yes! "Stampwants" thanks Doc for refreshing my memory.

Would someone be kind enough to provide me with the listed check letters under AS54(A) from the current catalog?