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Cover is Moscow, USSR to New York. Not "Russia." |
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| Edited by Moonbird - 10/17/2010 4:28 pm |
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Thanks, did not know she was USSR in 1922... thought a little later. Anyway, still interested in knowing something about the stamps since I don't have much international information. |
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WIKIPEDIA: The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR, Russian: #1057;#1086;#1102;#1079; #1057;#1086;#1074;#1077;#1090;#1089;#1082;#1080;#1093; #1057;#1086;#1094;#1080;#1072;#1083;#1080;#1089;#1090;#1080;#1095;#1077;#1089;#1082;#1080;#1093; #1056;#1077;#1089;#1087;#1091;#1073;#1083;#1080;#1082;, tr. Soyuz Sovetskikh Sotsialisticheskikh Respublik IPA: [s#592;#712;jus s#592;#712;v#690;e#678;k#690;#618;x s#601;#678;#616;#601;l#690;#618;#712;st#690;i#680;#618;sk#690;#618;x r#690;#618;s#712;publ#690;#618;k] ( listen), abbreviated #1057;#1057;#1057;#1056;, SSSR), informally known as the Soviet Union (Russian: #1057;#1086;#1074;#1077;#1090;#1089;#1082;#1080;#1081; #1057;#1086;#1102;#1079;, tr. Sovetsky Soyuz) or Soviet Russia, was a constitutionally socialist state that existed on the territory of most of the former Russian Empire in Eurasia between 1922 and 1991.[1] |
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Sorry to be obtuse Moonbird, but those numbers mean NOTHING to me.
Maybe you're more into Russia than I am; but I just happened on this cover and I'm looking for a simple explanation, not a lecture.
I'm looking for a story about the cancel and the stamps and something I could maybe look up if I had the appropriate international catalogs, which, as stated before, I don't. |
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Barb, I think Moonbird is just quoting some site that has English and Russian names. The #xxxx numbers are probably Cyrillic characters (Russian) that because of our browser settings do not translate correctly. They are the computer character codes for those letters. They are not catalogue numbers. More of a garbled history lesson I think.
I do not have a Scott catalogue (just a Canada and GB one) so cannot help you re numbers and dates.
I think European cancels go Year Month Day, unlike ours. Not sure for Russia / USSR though. edit typos |
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| Edited by Puzzler - 10/18/2010 01:41 am |
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For some stupid reason Scott lists all Soviet Union stamps under Russia, which is wrong. I do not have the catalogue, but the stamps could be found under Russia, around the year 1936 or maybe a bit earlier. |
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The stamps are listed in SG Simplified as being issued in 1929. The 15 K (worker, soldier and peasant) is SG 548 (blue). The 1 R (Central Telegraph Office, Moscow) is SG 561 (blue). There are lots of variations in this set. |
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didn't they have a revolution in 1918? Yeah they did, after that I think they became the USSR |
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Keeping the history simple, the Soviet Union was founded in December 1922 when the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic (created after the 1918 revolution) unified with the Transcaucasian (Armenia, Azerbaijan, Georgia), Ukrainian and Belorussian Soviet Socialist Republics. Other areas such as Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia were later annexed.
The first Stamps of the USSR were issued in 1923, inscribed CCCP, which is Russian for USSR.
Most incorporated republics previously issued there own stamps.
After the breakup of the USSR in 1992, all former members became independent and issued stamps again.
The USSR should have its own listings, separate from the Russian listings, but Gibbons and Scott group them together.
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| Edited by BeeSee - 10/18/2010 11:52 am |
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What puzzles me is for USA the cover has C.C.Sh.X; instead of C.Sh.A. which is an abbreviation of United States of America in Russian. So, what C.C.Sh.X. reads S.S.Sh.Ha could stand for: something like Union of Soviet States of HaAmerica? :) It is possible for proletarian Russians to call USA like that back in 1923 :) |
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| Edited by danko - 10/18/2010 2:12 pm |
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Thanks guys; appreciate the candor and info! you're wonderous! and wonderful! |
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Quote: I thought Moonbird was suffering from Acute Data Dump.   I don't understand Moonbird Data Dump. Are they catalogue number? Must be... |
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| Edited by timbres667 - 10/18/2010 11:33 pm |
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By the way, the Scott numbers (under Russia) for the stamps are 421 (Worker soldier peasant) and 436 (Telegraph Office). |
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