Cataloguing Post Cards With Stamps On Back

Bujutsu: re the hamburger place - I jumped on Webb but I think it was Webber's. My wife would get the kids all pumped up so I always had to stop when going south. I was told that some years ago they put a footbridge overpass so those people going north could park their cars and walk over the highway.

Re my postal card post - I checked the Webb reference on the internet and while doing so had a flash - the info I need would probably be in my Boggs book. I have cards going back to their first issue (1871) but I have Union Postale Universelle 2c green queen cards (Canada Scott#UX4) that Scott shows as first issued in 1879. Boggs (p541) shows 1877 and printed in Montreal until 1888 and then switched to Ottawa.

In a footnote on the page he indicates the printing cost was 3.50/M until 1892 than it became 2.75/M. Boggs indicates that the 2c cards where issued in a succession of colours until the last one in the set, the 6c blue on 2 cent, in 1922.

One of my 2c green cards, however, is post-marked Perce, Quebec, 1922. My reaction was, did this person save the card and decide to use it in 1922 or was this card, first printed in 1877, continuously printed (roughly 45 years) until 1922. Do you or anyone else reading this know off-hand what was actually the case?

Cynical

You are right. It is Webbers. I jumped the gun at the name. Oh well, their hamburgers are still good and yes, they did build an overpass some years ago for the south-bound traffic to stop there. I believe it has to be at least 10 - 15 years since it was built, give or take.

Regarding the run on the postal card you are referring to, I believe this is hardly unlikely that this card had a run of 22 years. It is not uncommon to find some of the old QV cards used right up to the 30s. These are still cheap enough in unused condition and even a used one from the 1930s would have to be cut down in price because it would not represent proper postal use.

While the Scott / Unitrade catalogue lists these cards, they are not as thorough as the Webb's Catalogue but at least it can serve as a guide.

Chimo

Bujutsu

Bujutsu: woke up in the middle of the night having a eureka moment thinking I just might have the Webb catalogue amongst all my books and sure enough I have it. Its old but still good for my purposes. Will place it somewhere front and centre where I can easily grab it.

LOL - Good Cynical

I once heard that this type of an idea in the middle of the night was called a "Cold Foot Idea" stemming from the bed that you have to get out of your warm bed and step on the floor which may seem cooler to you <G>

I use the Webb catalogue every now and then. I also go to the post office on occasion to get caught up on the latest postal stationery albeit, I am a bit behind in the topic.

One lady in our local club gets small bundles of these every now and then different sources and I buy them for the newest type plus those with the newest local post office cancellations.

Chimo

Bujutsu

Bujutsu: my kids say I have become a legend in my own mind so it's hard for me to admit to never having heard of a "cold foot idea". In my "yute" I had to occasionally take my foot out of the bed and place it on the cold floor to keep the room from spinning. That hasn't happened for many years now as I got a lot smarter as I got older.

I had reason to re-visit this thread in regards to some advice that Rod gave me. In doing so I had another look at the initial post card that I had placed here. I was struck by the spatial geography intrinsic to the card in that this person, who was travelling, used a card depicting a bridge at the University of Western Ontario (locally referred to as "Western") in London, Ontario, but posted it in Quyon, Quebec, on the Ottawa River to an address in Fort William. Ontario (now part of Thunder Bay, Ontario, after its amalgamation with its twin city, Port Arthur) at the western end of Lake Superior. Relative to Canada's size the distances involved are not great but compared to most other countries they are enormous (picture trains moving through the night to move this card on the final leg of its journey).

When the card was posted its King George V stamp (Canada Scott#107) was cancelled with the Quyon Post Office's 11-bar duplex obliterator, which produced a relatively well-inked postmark. Some time previous to this the community and its post office was known as Onslow, reflecting the township in which it was situated. King George may have had no knowledge of this community but there was a family connection to it and it's not beyond the realm of probability that he knew of it having heard the story while sitting at the royal dinner table. Collectors of royal definitives might be interested in it too and it can be appreciated by connecting to the following link describing Quyon's history.

http://www.heritagepontiac.ca/qohistory.htm

Indubitably.
With the absence of TV, Radio, etc etc, the dinner table was the focus of the interchange of news, Stories recounted, someone may play an instrument, the quotation of poets and Shakespeare,
perhaps a jolly song.
They would have been grand affairs in all stratas of life,
excepting the very poor.
The games evening subsequent to dinner, in Pride and Prejudice
comes to mind.

A great time in history for social intercourse, excepting their predilection for constant wars and killing each other.
Never understood why humans do that.

Rod: your use of the term "jolly" triggered another royal memory that may still be talked about around the dinner table in the Windsor household.

Apparently when Prince Phillip and his wife returned to England after a trip to Canada Phillip was asked to describe what he considered to be the highlight of the trip. Supposedly he replied "that jolly little mayor from Thunder Bay". During that visit "jolly Wally", as he would be known thereafter, may have patted the Queen on her buttocks during a photo-op, creating a storm of controversy throughout the empire. I'm pretty sure there are even newspaper pictures of the event.

Mr. Assef's prior claim to fame, although I have been told there are many, was that Liberace died at his house prior to what was to be a performance at the then Fort William Gardens.

Those wishing to see more about the Phillip and Walter event can google "Prince Phillip" and "Walter Assef".

Came across a letter card, which I suppose is a version of a post card and I think I have a few of these somewhere.

They remind me of when a buddy and I did a 3-day Paris tour in the early 1960s during the Cold War. On our last day we were in one of those large busy intersections and I said that I was "a little disappointed that we had been there three days and no one has accosted us selling dirty pictures". I kid you not. Five minutes later a guy sneaks up beside us and whips open this huge overcoat and said "pssst - want to buy some dirty pictures" and there they were - all these black and white accordian-like fold-up photos. Well he flips his coat closed and is glancing around as if we are going to arrested at any moment so to get rid of him we paid an exorbitant sum for two packs and he was gone. Not one minute had gone by.

Anyway, here is the frontispiece of the "letter card" I came across on the web with, I assume, a GB Scott#160 stamp on it .




Here is just one of the eight black and white photos that was part of the letter card package (with my caption):




In case you are interested the picture packages that my buddy and I had bought where all of nude statues that we had seen the day before in the Louvre. We had been had - but in hindsight it turned out to be the highlight of the trip.

In reference to the University of Western Ontario (UWO) bridge discussion at the beginning of this thread I thought this postcard image that was recently for sale on the web would fit perfectly here.

Cynical, that is one great card mailed from Folkestone.

If I am not mistaken, that one could be classified as a "Patriotic" (?)

The military scene is quite interesting too.

Chimo

Bujutsu

Bujutsu: it's appropriate that you jumped in so quick! This was was one of my first threads and I used you to lead me to the "learning" trough. As my Newfie Mom would have said "Bless you my son".

LOL - thank you. I try anyway <G>

Chimo

Bujutsu

I saw this postcard on ebay today. It's a type that is new to me. It is a book mark card showing Gordon Street in Teeswater, Ontario, during the winter. People familiar with Teeswater might remember the Cosy Restaurant, Sally Ann bread, Four Roses Butter, etc. Seeing the winter scene and the Mildmay address I thought the discussion might centre on a hockey game involving the Teeswater Shamrocks and the Mildmay Monarchs and how well CKNX personality Johnny Brent had refereed the game but it was not to be.

Another nice one. You don't see many of these 'book mark' cards, but, they do come around every now and then.

Chimo

Bujutsu