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Posted 01/01/2011   09:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Vilmar to your friends list Get a Link to this Message


Here's another batch of Cuba stamps dated 1898/1899 that I can not find in my Scott's catalogs. Whereas Scott's has a tendency to place an image for each type of stamp (or, if they are like commemoratives, tell you the name of the person or place for each denomination) I can't find these.

Are they counterfeit?

Thank you all!






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Posted 01/01/2011   11:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I believe these were prepared but not issued.
(There was a period of U.S. military administration from 1898 to 1902, or so, and that is probably a big part of the reason.)
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Posted 01/01/2011   1:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Vilmar to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Again, thanks, Cjd. Really! Not issued? How did you know that and where might I get more info on them? Once more, I suspect these will be handed down to my son who will hand them to his and so on until around 2350 AD after which they might be worth a dollar. Assuming humans are still around and haven't nuked each other off the planet.
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Posted 01/01/2011   1:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Collin is correct. There is also a 5c stamp in the set.
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Posted 01/01/2011   2:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know how high they go, but there are several higher values, as well.

Whether they make it to the peseta values, I do not know. The immediately preceding series might be some indicator of likely values.

My only Edifil is the simplified Spain and Colonies, and it doesn't mention them. Byrum might...I can check that later.
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Posted 01/01/2011   3:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Vilmar to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, guys!
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Posted 01/01/2011   4:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


Listed in Forbin as Revenue stamps 1898.

I have never seen one cancelled.



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Posted 01/01/2011   4:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I've never seen one canceled, either.
The Witt cinderella collection includes them with Cuban revenues, but cites Forbin as a source, so I don't consider that to be independent confirmation.

I'm going to go check Byrum and see what might be there.

[edit: Not in my copy of Byrum...its looseleaf, so you always wonder if you're missing anything.]
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Posted 01/03/2011   08:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Vilmar to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Once again, thanks, guys!
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Posted 06/06/2011   5:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Scarah to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

When looking for more info about this Cuban issue i've found this great forum.
After readin I'm still looking for an answer.
Is the stamp below also one of this serie or not (Note that the value is written in letters and not in numbers like the others)



Thanks

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Posted 03/18/2022   3:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jrbarkley to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
10 years dormant huh. so, im not sure what the name of the book these pages are from but on either side of those exact stamps are two of the higher values although apparently they are of an earlier issue? 1876? im not really sure, but I thought it was interesting.
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Posted 03/18/2022   10:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Note: To offer the best identification, images should be of each stamp, in decent appearance.

Stamps with inscription 'CUBA POLICIA' were first issued in 1877. Almost every year a new serie was issued up to 1888. The year is always indicated in the design of the stamp (except for the stamps issued after 1882).

http://catalogue.klaseboer.com/vol2/html/cuba3.htm
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Posted 03/19/2022   03:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

The answer to Scarah (2011)

The answer is 8 stamps in the series (Revenues) 1889
from 1c to 25c

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Posted 03/19/2022   08:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jossanders52 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Cuba January 1898 is a series of 8 revenue stamps issued during the Spanish American war, I do not have any used copies in my collection but it is easy possible that some are used for some purposes during stamp shortages.
The issue is called Timbre Movil or general revenues, mainly to be used on documents.
The 1 cent with letters belong to the set of 8, all 7 other stamps are having numers, values issued are 1c., 2c., 3c,. 4c,. 5c,. 10c,. 15c,. 25 c,
They are listed in Jones and Rodrigues catalog edition 1998 as CG22- CG29

The design consist of the Arms of Spain with the Escutcheon of the House of Bourbon, surmounted by a royal crown and supported by the collar of the Order of the Golden Fleece in an oval. perforated 14.2 Value of each stamp is $1 or less.

Similar stamps are issued with on the top Cuba replaced by the Philippines (Actual FILIPas). There are 4 values known and listed in the Warren catalog under W 262-W265, same issue date and the 1 cent also has the value in letters, see scans below.


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Posted 03/19/2022   7:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Jos,

Quote:
The Cuba January 1898 is a series of 8 revenue stamps issued during the Spanish American war, I do not have any used copies in my collection


I have yet to ever see a used copy!

Thanks for your work (saved)
Very helpful.


The Pomegranate in the House of Bourbon Arms.
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Posted 03/19/2022   8:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hang around long enough and everything comes back around.
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