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Posted 01/06/2011   08:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Cjd to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello-

This cancel, apparently from a train leaving Reims, appears to me to be different from the typical ondule/scallop TPO cancels. I've included a more-familiar (to me) TPO cancel below for comparison.





Is this just natural variability in the courrier convoyeur cancels, or is this something different? I'm seeing a series of arcs meeting at points, nearly. If it has a different name, I'd like to go searching using the new term.

Thanks for looking.
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Posted 01/06/2011   10:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add AnthonyUK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
How's your French.
I was looking at this site earlier which is very useful - http://www.marcophilie.org/

Is it a telegraph cancel?
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Edited by AnthonyUK - 01/06/2011 10:26 am
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Posted 01/06/2011   10:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Anthony, thanks, fascinating site for a budding marcophule marcophile ! like myself.

CJD, the cancel looks like a 10-sided Convoyeurs Ligne type (under the heading Aid to Identification by Type (Forme)) but so far I have not found a likeness to yours.

Also fascinating that France had heptagonne (7-sided) cancels.

Looking on Delcampe also but getting distracted by all the nice cancels much too much.
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Posted 01/06/2011   10:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Anthony, I think it is a train cancel, based on the "Reims a ______" structure. It matches everything else about them, except it seemed less "wavy" and more "pointed" to me...might just be the nature of the strike.

That site is nicely put together, and is a great resource.
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Posted 01/06/2011   10:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
marcophule


Doesn't that just describe us to a "T"?



If that wasn't intentional, it should have been...

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Posted 01/06/2011   11:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
marcophule



Quote:
Doesn't that just describe us to a "T"?




Quite unintentional but maybe my subconscious was speaking there!

Doug of the Dark (no Light) Side
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Posted 01/06/2011   11:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is on Delcampe entitled:
Convoyeur Type 2 - Cormicy Ă  Reims sur EPCL Semeuse 10c



Some parts of the cancel are rounded and some are more pointed seemingly. Perhaps this is due to wear or how the cancel was struck?
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Posted 01/06/2011   1:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the picture, Puzzler; I agree that some of the waves look like points. Until a better explanation comes along, I'm going to guess that I have a plain old TPO cancel that just looks a little different.
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Posted 01/06/2011   5:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Another from Delcampe I didn't have time to post earlier.
I think it is the same, just looking at these.



Also called a Type II or T2.
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Just showing off,
a new acquisition, Port Taufiq (tawfik, taufik)
Governate of Ismalia

Port on the Suez Canal.

Joy is a nice Postmark.

(If anyone can shed light on that particular TPO service, it would be appreciated)



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Edited by rod222 - 08/04/2012 12:15 am
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Nice map showing the railway to Ismalia, talking about the Turkish attack on the British forces in WWI along the Suez Canal.
http://www.1914-1918.net/suez.htm

Does not show Tauriq, Taufiq,but where is that, on the way to Cairo from Ismalia perhaps?

edit: Oops, I mean PORT Tauriq Taufiq, must be on the canal somewhere? (spelled it wrong, no wonder I couldn't find it).
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Posted 08/04/2012   02:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Goodness, that's a ripper link Puzzler,
thanks a bunch, nice Map.

Port Taufiq is at the very entrance to Great Bitter Lake
somewhere near "Serapeum" on the map, on the Eastern side,


Hmmm I got that terribly wrong.

Entrance to the red sea, at Suez,
so I am guessing late mail, etc to and fro, would have been
railed from Alexandria, to expedite either through the Mediterannean, or via Brindisi.


I think we stopped there on the way to Australia,
when we immigrated.

Port Taufiq is a very common postmark for mail from ships
going both ways.

Your map explains the rail line, I had long wondered why mail
would have been loaded / unloaded at port Taufiq,
It is becoming clearer.






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Posted 08/04/2012   03:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Love those military maps with all the important defensive landmarks pointed out.

Here is (on Delcampe) a postcard booklet of pictures along the canal, including 'Port Tewfik', which is probably the same.

'Suez as-Suways Carnet Album 12 vues Port Said El Ferdane Port Tewfik Lac Timsak Ismalia Canal'
http://www.delcampe.net/page/item/i...guage,E.html
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Posted 08/04/2012   03:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Lots of postcards on Delcampe under 'Port Tewfik' including this one showing Port Tewfik at bottom near Suez.

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Posted 08/04/2012   03:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And one of a train going out along a breakwater, it looks like, I am a bit confused on all this myself.

http://www.stamps-auction.com/egypt...r-sale-78835
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