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Posted 01/13/2011   12:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Cjd to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Any ideas? I'm hoping for a Polar expedition...I'm guessing at 1881. Google turned up nothing for me.




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Posted 01/13/2011   01:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Cjd,

sorry to disappoint You, but the cancel on the stamp is part of very common railway cancel ("Finska Jernvagens Postkupeexpedition"). These were used to cancel mail transported between Helsinki and St.Petersburg.
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Posted 01/13/2011   02:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jimjamtwo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'd still buy it!
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Posted 01/13/2011   03:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


That looked good for a while
I was hoping for yer!
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Posted 01/13/2011   04:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jimjamtwo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
LOL.
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Posted 01/13/2011   08:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Finnish government in 1881 in preparation of the First International Polar Year in 1882, set up a scientific station in Sodankyla, Finland.
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Posted 01/13/2011   11:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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sorry to disappoint You, but the cancel on the stamp is part of very common railway cancel


No disappointment at all, a TPO/RPO cancel is never bad news. Thanks!

I should have recognized enough of the Postkupeexpedition from its similarity to the word for Swedish TPOs. (Though in my own defense, each of my Swedish cancels abbreviate it as P.K.X.P.)

SCF never fails!
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Posted 01/13/2011   1:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cynical to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have the 1885 version (20p orange Finland Scott#33) of this stamp design which is postmarked 1886 Helsingfors, which I understand is Helsinki in Swedish. Can someone explain to me why this should be the case given that Finland has not been a part of Sweden since 1809.
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Posted 01/13/2011   1:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Can someone explain to me why this should be the case given that Finland has not been a part of Sweden since 1809.


Sweden has always been one of the official languages of Finland due to historical reasons; from 11th century up to late 18th century it was pretty much the only language most aristocracy and officials used. The Finnish language started to took off only in late 19th century with the rise of fennoman & nationalist movements.

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Posted 01/13/2011   3:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Google gives you:
Finska Järnvägens Postkupe Expedition
is Swedish for Finnish Railway Postkupe Expedition

Finska Jernvägens Postkupe Expedition
Finnish Railroad Postkupe Expedition

But I am missing the nuances that knowing the language gives one.
My apologies for any misunderstandings.

Post Kupe is Swedish for Post Cabin.
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Posted 01/13/2011   10:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cynical to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Scb: thanks for the information. I will honour you by getting some karjalanpiirak from the bake shop tomorrow.
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Posted 01/14/2011   11:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I will honour you by getting some karjalanpiirak from the bake shop tomorrow


Karelian pasties made & sold in Canada - that is awesome. I hope you have tasted them with some (or lots of) egg butter on top. That is how most Finns enjoy these pastries.
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Posted 01/15/2012   9:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'll bring this one back around with another TPO cancel. Would this cancel have Russian in the lower ring?

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Posted 01/16/2012   01:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@cjd... Based on the looks/position of date, this one seems like 'POSTKUPEN N:o1 - FINLAND SUOMI ' cancel used from 1889 to 1894. So no Russian on the lower ring.
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Edited by scb - 01/16/2012 01:30 am
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Posted 01/16/2012   09:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you very much, scb.
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