GB. Perfin

I don`t collect perfins, but I have to keep this Edward VII 1 Sh perfin, because this has the brightest colors (al the others I have are, as usual faint). I know the CV for used (fine used, which this is not, cca. 12 Eur.) How would this perfin affect it`s value?
The perfin is R.H
&.S
Thanks.

I still like the colors on the stamp, I have not seen that one - Jeff

I don't have a source to i.d. perfins (other than Google), so I can't say whether the perfin is of interest to perfin collectors. I think the perfin damages the catalogue value pretty sharply, unless it is a desirable perfin; however, a price based on a rare perfin would reduce the audience of interested buyers to a handful.

I agree that yours has eye appeal, and if was mine, I wouldn't hesitate to put it in an album.

This perfin looks like "RH/&S". I'll look it up later if no-one else identifies it.

Perfins used to be classified as faults and valued at about 10% of catalogue but I don't know what the current practice is.

I believe it's "R.H/&S" listed as R Hovenden & Sons Ltd, Perfumiers, London W1.

I found this on the web...



That doesn't seem creepy or anything...

There must have been a better way of saying that?

Nice find Collin. Shades of Jo in Little Women!

Thank for the infos. A bit sad to find out perfin is considered to be fault. As said, this one has bright colours. These stamps are sensible to warm water & light. Heres an image, in the middle the perfin:



Now you can see the difference. Usually used stamps look like those other two.

The Walsal postmark is a rubber parcel cancellation,
presumably soaked off in hot water hence the fading?

Link to Auctions and prices realized from The Perfin Society of Great Britain. Fascinating reading and I don't even collect the fellows.
http://www.angelfire.com/pr/perfins...uctions.html

Nice link Puzz,
indication of how prices are driven up, not necessarily
by scarcity factor but by handling fees.
IIRC our local auctions now will not accept anything below $10
so members have to throw lots together to attract buyers.

My local (was my local club) is the only place you
can make a bid of 50c and win the lot :)

They can start the bids at 25c here in Halifax. Seems a shame. 2000 Canada went for 50c last month. I was shocked and next time I will bid just to prevent that. I was slow to look at the lots on auction so didn't really know what was what. No hexagons or picture postage though.

I like that perfin and stamp, nice colours indeed.

Hi All

I contacted a friend of mine who was very helpful with his information about this perfin and this was his reply;

Thanks for the URL. While it would have been better if the stamp had been set with a white background to make the initials show through against the dark colours of the stamp, I think the perfin is cat. # R2510.02 - the R has a larger loop to it that the R in R2510.01. The user was Richard Hornsby & Sons, Spittlegate Iron Works, Granthan, Lincolnshire. The perfin is known used from 1885 to 1918. In 1918 the firm became known as Ruston & Hornsby and are best known as manufacturers of industrial petrol and diesel engines. Many of the Western Canada grain elevators had R. & H. single cylinder engines to run the machinery. The perfin is not recorded on the 1/- Edward, but that doesn't mean anything. New discoveries are turning up all the time, even on the 1d reds. It is known on the 1/- Jubilee. I have included the details for R2510.01, just in case that is what it is - you will note the difference between the two R's. The GB Perfin Society uses different letters to distinguish the various stamp issues - E is the Victoria Jubilee issue and F is KEVII. I thought I should explain that.

Bujutsu

The pin counts by character are 11,12/15,10 i.e. 11 holes in the R etc.

This R.H/&S pin count matches R2520.02 and R2520.02a both from R Hovenden & Sons Ltd.

R2520.02 has characters 5.5 mm in height and R2520.02a has slightly smaller characters (5 mm).

R2510.01 has pin count 11,12/12,10.

R2510.02 has pin count 13,12/14,10.

Neither of these has the single pin full stop between the R and the H.

Hovenden or Hornsby, Hornsby or Hovenden... For me it`s hard to decide...but all this with the perfins has much more fun I`ve ever thought. Maybe I should start & collect them. Thank you vm. for infos and giving me an insight into these.

Minimum $10? How many auction lots would you normally see (before or after the minimum was established)? We get over 100 regularly per meeting, and min bid is 25¢.