Belgian Blue 2 Centime Postmark

This is a new type of postmark for me. Can anyone give me some information about this, and would it classify as socked on the nose. I hope someone nose. I would appreciate it. Thanks Jeff

I believe it's a type of roller precancel, but maybe someone else's knows more.

thanks Battlestamps, precancel did not even occur to me.

Hi

Some collectors refer to this overprint as a precancel while others say it is not.

Another theory is that this overprint was applied to stamps that would no longer be in use and were done so that these stamps would not be used (?) They were supposed to be applied to 'remainder' stamps once new ones were issued to replace the older ones.

Some countries have / had expiry dates that meant that certain stamps could no longer be used. Here, in Canada and the US, there are no expiry dates for the usage of our stamps.

The Belgian precancels I have seen usually will have a date incorporated in the overprint, with the exception of the last few definitive series that have a coat of arms only w/o a year date.

Hope this helps

Chimo

Bujutsu

sure does, thanks

These are known as "Pizza Wheel cutter" roller cancels.
I think they are gorgeous and collect them.

Used for Postal Savings bank cancels,
and as a backup postmark on occaisions when
the normal canceller has missed a stamp on a cover.

I don't think most philatelists consider these precancels,
albeit they were used as a type of precancel, prior to receiving
a normal post office strike.

Rod - two follow up questions please. 1) only on Belgian stamps or did other countries use other forms of "pizza wheel cutter" 2) the stamp I was questioning, I believe was a postage stamp, so it was NOT part of a postal savings program? - Jeff

No Belgium was the only Pizza Wheel Cutter profile user,
they are on a few cents each but make a fab collection.

Many countries utilised the "roller" style canceller,
for example Netherlands with their Roller circular style Pre Cancels.

I am not au fait with Belgian Postal Savings regime,
but my guess is normal postage stamps would be
placed on a savings sheet, or in a passbook and cancelled.
Similar to a normal savings account passbook in the old days.

I have it also only on Belgium stapms... for example, on this 5 centimes

printed the thread, got it - thanks Jeff

Yep, that's it filipo.

May I politely suggest a change of habitat for your stamp?
I see the decided marks of your stamp of that
ne'er do well, Mr. Rusty Toning.

You may also read some detailed commentary
from these extermely handsome gentlemen from a stamp forum...

https://goscf.com/t/7260&whichpage=1

I don't know how I am going to get anything done, if I keep looking through my duplicates.

rod222, I am afraid that I didn't understand what you asked me for?

Please... could you explain me... my English is still so insufficient!

Ah!
please forgive me filipo,
I was concerned for you stamps shown in your scan.

The paper behind the stamp, and the stamp
appears to have "rust" or humidity toning.

This is bad if not seen to and can migrate to your other stamps.
Hope you have your stamp collection in a dry place.
Sorry to confuse you.
Rod

Rod, this stamp (with few other) for more than 100 years are decorating one unique scrapbook, and, because it doesn't have any value, I wouldn't like to recover it from there.




Jhlovell, sorry for the offtopic on your thread!