Germany 1880 - Unusual Shade - Any Suggestions?

This is Michel Nr. 41, but a very unusual shade of a stamp which is normally pink through to rose red.

For an overview of this issue, see
http://philadb.com/?site=list&catid...d=481&id=624

Is this example vermilion? Or salmon?

I'm at loss for the word to describe it - suggestions welcome!

jimjamtwo, is your color not carmine? It is hard to tell on the scan but that's my impression. I have several of these stamps and one that is somewhat darker which seems to fall in the carmine range.

There's the rub! I'd say it was some variation of carmine, but if you look at the website above you'll see that what is called 'karmin' there doesn't look carmine at all!

The following image, composed of two images scanned at the same time with the same scanner, illustrates the difference between the two shades, the regular carmine (on the left) and the one I'm asking about here. I think it has a very unusual (for this issue) orangey tinge.

Hi jimjamtwo and mhc99
Just to confuse you even more. Any suggestions for these colours.
Regards

Horamakhet

Horamakhet, they're all the regular shades - I suppose I'd call them rose pink.

I really like the pair over to the right. They have a very interesting oval (railway?) cancel.

Hi jimjamtwo

thanks for the information.
Much appreciated.
Horamakhet

The link you gave gives date of issues for each colour, too bad the date on pmk is of very little help 26/8 1889 (?). This is still on paper. Under UV light? My german catalogue list the following colours:
-lebhaftkarmin/lebhafrosarot
-rosarot
-lebhaftrosa{eosin},hellrosa (Töne)
-lebhaftrotkarmin, dunkelrosarot.
And under UV light(?): gelblichrot/dunkelgelblichorange/hellorange/mittelbraunorange.

Wadmalatz, thanks for listing those alternatives. Out of all those, I'd pick lebhaftrosa(eosin). As it happens, I came to the conclusion that it was an eosin shade last night, without knowing that any such shade was listed.

The reason for this was that it's very similar to the eisin shades of the Australian KGV issue.

Unfortunately, there's an example of this shade available on an auction website, and it's not remotely similar to my stamp:



So I wish there were a dunkelrosa(eosin) or rotkarmin(eosin) option!

And, yes, it's an 1889 cancel.

Horamakhet, I think you'd need an expert to tell you if any of those shades are worth anything. Some of the high value shades look - to my eyes - virtually the same colour and I can only assume that a difference is determined by means of UV light.

Important update: this webpage has a superb presentation of the early German Empire stamps, showing examples with their respective shades.

It's well worth a look!

http://www.briefmarken-ausstellung....elt/dre.html

jimjamtwo, that is a great link you posted. It's great to be able to see the possible colors for each stamp.

By the way, what do they mean by extended brand or narrow brand on the 10 pfennig stamps?

mhc99, I just checked my 1880 examples and some are wider than others. The design is about 1 mm wider (in the centre) and the overall stamp about 1.5 mm wider.

I had never noticed this before.

jimjamtwo, thanks for the clarification on the "brand" issue. You learn something new almost every day you visit SFC.