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Nice Sun Cancel From Nepal

 
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Posted 03/19/2011   11:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add jhlovell to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This is a nice and "for me" unusual sun cancel from Nepal. I don't know if these strikes were common in Nepal or not.

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Posted 03/19/2011   11:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice stamp and cancel
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Posted 03/19/2011   11:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks BeeSee :)
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Posted 03/19/2011   1:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mhc99 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
jh, I couldn't find anything on the sun cancel which is really nice but found this interesting site on Nepal stamps which you might enjoy.

http://www.nepalstamps.com/my_exhibit_-_frame_2
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Posted 03/19/2011   1:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
India had some CDS's with a sun incorporated into them, but nothing like what you've got.
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Posted 03/19/2011   2:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for those who have answered so far, am trying to get more input, but it is sounding more unusual than I thought. Read the site mhc99, thanks.
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Posted 03/19/2011   5:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Forged Telephone / telegraph cancellation.

This is a forged large type crescent cancellation
type (a) Telephone head office (1917-1943)

Large Crescent type.

"The Native Postmarks of Nepal" 1978
wolfgang hellrigl and colin hepper



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Edited by rod222 - 03/19/2011 5:27 pm
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Posted 03/19/2011   8:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So Rod, you are saying my cancellation is a foergery? Is the stamp for real? Does anyone have examples of the REAL cancellation? Thanks - Jeff (still looks neat)
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Edited by jhlovell - 03/19/2011 8:40 pm
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Posted 03/20/2011   12:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Jeff, if you think about it,
stamps are pored over by thousands of eyes
and passed on from Jo to Flo,
most of the genuine articles end up in collections,
It should be no surprise that we, in the cheap seats
end up with forgeries or weeds.
With a doubtful stamp I always assume the negative before
research.

Yes yours is a forgery if we are to believe the experts, and the literature
Yes it is cute, but when all said and done,
an artifice created by a ne'er do well in a dingy back room somewhere.
Created to decieve.

Can still look great in an album, duly marked "forgery"
Collectors need these to distinguish those of the correct marque


I'll dig up the genuine article shortly.



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Edited by rod222 - 03/20/2011 12:19 am
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Posted 03/20/2011   01:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm inclined to think it's probably a fake, simply because it's too clear. However the perfectly genuine telegraphic cancellations also look very like this. You could once buy whole sheets of this ½ Anna value, telegraphically cancelled, for peanuts, and of other higher values for cashew nuts.
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Posted 03/20/2011   02:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So what are you suggesting Tony,
leave the finding open?
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Posted 03/20/2011   02:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think I'd leave it open until we have a clear, complete and definitive impression of the telegraphic and telephone cancels (which I certainly don't have any more. I once did have a sheet of the ½ Anna, with telegraphic cancels, but it was sold off in the holocaust ordered by my evil second ex 25 years ago. I'm afraid old age, grog and fags have dimmed the memory to the extent I can't be sure exactly what these cancellations looked like any more.)

Edit: Just found this reference on the Internet
http://www.nepalstamps.com/telegrap..._quick_guide

So it looks as if the jury is still out. (Though I must say that, if I were going to forge a cancellation on Nepal, I wouldn't bother with a telegraph/telephone type.)
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Posted 03/20/2011   02:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I should also have made the point that I don't doubt Hepper and Hellrigl for a moment. There are probably subtle differences between the forgeries and the genuine types that escape me.

BTW, Hellrigl died recently - a great loss to Nepalese and Jammu & Kashmir philately. He was a great expert, and just as important, was always willing to share his knowledge.
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Posted 03/20/2011   03:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

I suppose one could send it in for expertising

I sold a house to a gentleman in Adelaide once,
I dealt with his parents as he wasn't quite with us,
His parents told me that apparently he had written a paper,
that only a handful of people in the world, could mark
and critique it.

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Posted 03/20/2011   07:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
No, I was in Melbourne at the time, Rodney. Not Adelaide.
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Posted 03/20/2011   4:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I solved the whole thing - I ate the stamp!
Actually I put it in my book with this discussion and will revisit it when I have more information or nothing else to do. Marked as a probable forgery. Thanks for all the information and help. More learning = more fun.
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