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10 Cent Franco Stamp

 
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Posted 06/27/2011   4:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add gerry68 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
hi guys newbie from ireland here.
can anyone id this stamp can't find it anywhere I will thank you in advance.
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Posted 06/27/2011   4:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bobgggg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like an Italian States stamp from the late 1800's
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Posted 06/27/2011   5:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gerry68 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
yeah I think you might be on the right track, are the cross keys a vatican sign think I seen it in the movie da vinci code.
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Posted 06/30/2011   10:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add filipo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Roman States, Scott #22... from the year 1868... possibly reprint or forgery.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Italy-Roman-Sta...380320006979
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Posted 07/02/2011   09:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gerry68 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
hi filipo
why would you think it could be a reprint or forgery?
why would someone forge a stamp that's not worth much?
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Edited by gerry68 - 07/02/2011 12:26 pm
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Posted 07/02/2011   1:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add filipo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Gerry,

I will quote you text from the Klaseboer site about this subject:


Quote:
Reprints:

ATTENTION: most of the centesimi stamps of the Papal States have been reprinted in large quantities. They are very hard to distinguish from original stamps. The only easiest way to distinguish them seems to exist for perforated stamps (imperforate reprints are very difficult to distinguish from genuine stamps): genuine perforated centesimi stamps should have the perforation 13 1/4 (irregularly). Unofficial reprints were made by:

Usigli (1878) 2, 3, 30, 40 and 80 c (thick paper, colours different and different gum), imperforate or perforated 11 1/2 or 12. He also made essay-strips with all values together on one sheet (thus also creating stamps with background colour different from the genuine stamps), for an example see: 'Philatelic Forgers Their Lives and Works' by Varro E. Tyler, page 53.
Moens (Brussels, 1889): All values, imperforate or perforated 12
Gelli&Tani (Brussels) (Bonasi?): All values, some different colours, perforated 11 1/2 to 13 (very regularly)
David Cohn (1890):All values (with or without gum), shining paper, imperforate or perforated 11 1/2, printed in enormous quantities, these are the most common reprints.


You can find more about that subject on the link here:

http://catalogue.klaseboer.com/vol2...l/papal2.htm
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Posted 07/02/2011   3:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gerry68 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
thank you filipo

another question if it were real would it be worth much have to ask because all my stamps are from the one collection and date from earliest 1861 to latest 1957 so it could be real. gerry
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Posted 07/03/2011   2:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add filipo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
i am really not an expert, but a catalog value for the original of this issue is also really small.

regards,

Filip
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Posted 07/03/2011   2:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gerry68 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
thank you filipo
i just had to ask, thought I had a good one. lol
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