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Andorra Question Re A Cinderella Issue

 
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Posted 08/01/2011   7:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add backroads to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Can anyone enlighten me as to exactly what these official looking Europa Issues are?





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Posted 08/26/2011   10:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cursus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'll try not to be too long.
Until 1993 Andorra, a handful of valleys on the Pyrenees, was a feudal state. Coming from a 1276 agreement (called "Pareatges" in Catalan) between two Catalan feudal lords: the bishop of la Seu d'Urgell and the viscount of Castellbň; whose legacy ended into the French Crown and from it to the French Republic President. Both were equal and indivisible lords of Andorra, and were called "Coprínceps", as Andorra is a principality. As none of them lived in Andorra, they appointed two representatives in Andorra: the "Veguers" (a political figure common in all Catalan lands, as Andorra is). They were called "Veguer francčs" (for the French head of state) and "Veguer Episcopal" (for the bishop). They shared the power and acted as co-heads of state.
After the 1993 constitution the power of coprínceps, and so that of the veguers, become just representative, as in any other full right democracy.
In Andorra the domestic mail is free, the foreign is provided by the French and Spanish POs. But Somehow, in the late 1970's there appears a "Vegueria Episcopal Issue Service" that began to issue cards like this one (issued in 1986)stating that the card covers the domestic mail fee (it's free!) and that for foreign mail, a suitable stamp should be affixed.






Later there appeared also some minisheets like yours. A lot of people here (in Catalonia) collect them as they show Catalan subjects (normally neglected bu the Spanish PO that we bear). Not me, although I like and pick them whenever I find at a good price. For me, they are halfway between cinderella and postal items.
Your first sheet deals with the Roman Law from which Catalan Common Law (and, hence, Andorra's) comes; and the second one, on "Andorra" as a subject of French and Spanish operas.
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Posted 08/26/2011   10:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think SCF will be the Internet source for information on these. (Or the English-language source, at least.)

Interesting stuff.
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Posted 08/23/2017   05:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"Vegueria Episcopal Issue Service"

Barcelona 1992

(Backstamped in Red : 0963)

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Edited by rod222 - 08/23/2017 06:02 am
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Posted 08/23/2017   09:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tim H to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Off-topic, but does landlocked Andorra have an Olympic or any other kind of sailing team?
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Posted 08/23/2017   09:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Tim, Andorra has joined the Olympics every year since 1976. Last year they participated in four sports of which swimming was the closest to sailing. Probably not too many large lakes up there to do a lot of sailing.

Peter
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Indeed, there was a yatch Andorra team on the Barcelona'92 Olympics. I saw with my own eyes, while strolling on the Olympic harbour (I was a volunteer, then). Althoug Andorra is landlocked and has just some small mountain lakes, it's just 200 km from the Catalan Mediterranean coast. Many Andorra nationals live in Barcelona or other Catalan towns, as we share language and culture. So, if you have the money and the contacts, shouldn't be that hard to set a sailing olympic team.
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Posted 08/25/2017   02:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tim H to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Peter, Cursus, thanks for the info. That's the real wonder and joy of the Olympic Games that it is so inclusive. Sailing conditions off the Catalan coast are often very good.
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