Identifying Greece Hermes Stamps

Hello to the community!
Vasia, can we be sure that also the cancellation is fake?
It is indeed a forgery stamp but may it have not been recognised by the post officed and therefore used as genuine?
Basil

Hi guys, sorry for the huge delay in getting this done. I had buried away my Greece album during the fall but dug it out today and finished up. I added a few more Hermes stamps and took pics of the backs of everything. They are all located here:

http://s1141.photobucket.com/albums...1/stamps101/

If attempting to help, please note that the pictures with two stamps do not necessarily correspond with the same picture of the back of two stamps. I just happened to take the photos that way. The FRONT of the stamp and BACK of the same stamp will have identical letter labels. I used the entire alphabet a-z then used aa to xx.

So
a matches a-back
cc matches cc-back

and so on. I made sure the L was a capital so it isn't confused with I.

I have much larger pics of each stamp if needed.

I appreciate any assistance!!

stamps101,

nice to see you unearthing those Large Hermes Heads. Some of your stamps (x,L,gg,dd,hh,bb,cc and b) have already been identified in previous postings on this thread. Based on the control numbers on the back and other characteristics, I will make an effort with most of the rest, showing your scans for everyone.



(letter aa) 10 lepta 1880-1886 printings without control numbers on back (Scott 54, Hellas 56)



(letter c) 5 lepta Coarse Provisional (First) Athens Prints 1861-1862 (Scott 11a, Hellas 11Ib). Notice the unique for these printings shape of the control number on the back (2 lines forming the vertical of the "5").



(letter ee) 10 lepta 1880-1886 printings without control numbers on back (Scott 54, Hellas 56)

(letter ff) 20 lepta 1880-1886 printings without control numbers on back (Scott 56a, Hellas 59IIa)

And on we go!



(letter f) 1 lepton 1880-1886 printings "without control numbers on back" (Scott unlisted, Hellas 53). Of course, 1l and 2l stamps do not have control numbers in any of the issues.



(letter h) 2 lepta 1862-1867 Consecutive Athens Printings (Scott 16, Hellas 16)



(letter ll) 10 lepta 1880-1886 printings without control numbers on back (Scott 54, Hellas 56)

(letter mm) 20 lepta 1880-1886 printings without control numbers on back (Scott 56a, Hellas 59IIa)

More Hermes Heads from the batch of stamps101:



(letter n) 80 lepta 1862-1867 Consecutive Athens Printings (Scott 22, Hellas 22)



(letter o) 80 lepta 1862-1867 Consecutive Athens Printings (Scott 22, Hellas 22)



(letter q) 1 lepton 1862-1867 Consecutive Athens Printings (Scott 16, Hellas 15)

Wow thank you soo much for all your help on this board, vasia. I have all these laid out on a stock page and it's so nice to have some of them identified finally!

I *really* like this seriea of stamps, but they are sure hard to identify for an inexperienced person.

Thanks again for taking the time to help me again

Some more identifications:



(letter r) 20 lepta 1868-1869 "Cleaned Plates" issue (Scott 27, Hellas 27). The 20l stamps with lettters "t" and "u" are from the same issue.



(letter s) 40 lepta 1862-1867 Consecutive Athens Printings (Scott 21, Hellas 20Ib)



(letter v) 10 lepta 1875-1880 printings on cream paper with control numbers on back (Scott 46, Hellas 50)

Some more:



(letters y and z) 5 lepta 1880-1886 printings on cream paper without control numbers on back (Scott 53, Hellas 55). Different shades. Your 5 lepta (letter tt) also belongs to the same issue.



(letter ww) 1 lepton 1875-1880 printings on cream paper "with control numbers on back" (Scott 43, Hellas 47). Once again: the 1l and 2l of all issues do NOT have control numbers on back.



(letter xx) 1 lepton 1880-1886 printings "without control numbers on back" (Scott unlisted, Hellas 53). Your 1 lepton (letter rr) also belongs to the same issue.

The following 3 stamps are from the 1880-1886 printings on cream paper without control numbers on back:

(letter uu) 10 lepta (Scott 54, Hellas 56)
(letter vv) 20 lepta (Scott 56, Hellas 59II)
(letter ss) 40 lepta (Scott 58, Hellas 58)

We are left now with 6-7 stamps to identify. I will treat each one of them separately, as they pose some problems in identification (at least to my eyes). Some might require a larger scan.

Once home I will figure out which ones are left and post big scans of them. Is a larger scan of the back helpful as well?

Hello, stamps101

to start with, maybe you can post bigger scans of (letter a) - 2 lepta front and (letter m) - 80 lepta front and back. For the rest I will explain my hesitations and thoughts one by one.

Ok I added the front and back blown up for a and m found on the first page here:

http://s1141.photobucket.com/albums...1/stamps101/

The one pic of the back is a bit blurry - if you require a better one I will see if I can get the macro zoom to work a bit better and retake it.

Here is the first of the remaining ones:



It looks very much like a Paris Print 2 lepta, given the broken shade lines of the cheek and the appearance of the spandrels. Based on the shade shown in the scan, I would say it is Scott 2a, Hellas 2c: brown-bistre.

I am learning a lot! I also found and read a forum thread on a different board between you and another person on this issue and it is quite complex!

You are absolutely right, stamps101! It is a complex issue and I have been learning a lot about it lately. There is still so much left to learn and digest. I will try to deal with the remaining stamps one at a time - not sure I will have definite answers for all!

P.S How is your Russia collection going along? I hope the catalogues have proved useful. We will be awaiting to see some of your material on the SCF.