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Missed My Shot At A Rare One!

 
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Posted 09/06/2011   9:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add PostmasterGS to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
One of the most elusive stamps for collectors of Germany is Michel A1, the "Vineta Provisional." It's one of the most controversial issues in German collecting, and either worthless or extremely valuable, depending on who you believe in the great debate!

First, a little history...

The SMS Vineta was a German Heavy Cruiser commissioned in 1897. In 1901, it embarked on a friendship tour of ports in the Americas. In January, the Vineta was in New Orleans during Emperor Wilhelm's birthday. There was considerable coverage in the local press, and many German crewmen sought to send copies of the local newspapers back to relatives in Germany. The newspapers didn't make it to the Vineta before she sailed, however. They caught up with her in Port of Span, Trinidad, in late March-early April, 1901.

The rate for mailing a newspaper at the time was 3 Pfennig. But German warships of the period didn't stock 3 Pf stamps. Instead, German postal regulations stipulated that since no stamps of the correct rate were available, the postage should be paid in cash. However, the Vineta's postal clerk, after consulting with the captain, bisected three sheets of 5 Pf stamps and used a rubber stamp to overprint each half "3 Pf", creating a total of 600 provisional stamps.

The German Postal Administration processed and delivered the items despite the unauthorized stamps, reasoning that because the captain was the highest authority available on the ship, his permission was sufficient. Since that time, however, the Vineta Provisional has become quite controversial, with many collectors and authors arguing that because it was never authorized postage, it's essentially worthless. For the rest of us, however, it's like an elusive white whale.

On 3 September, a Vineta Provisional on printed-matter wrapper was offered for auction by Württembergisches Auktionshaus in Stuttgart.




Final hammer price, €10,500 (US$14,688) + commission, etc. If only...
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Posted 09/06/2011   9:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
wow!
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Posted 09/06/2011   10:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jkjblue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I've heard the story, but haven't seen the bisect, Thanks!
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Posted 09/07/2011   01:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Plateflaw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
How many genuine bisects survive PostmasterGS?

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Posted 09/07/2011   08:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tinus_NL to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Fantastic story to be sure. It pains me to see an image of the stamp in my album and knowing I'll probably never fill the space there, though... Alas my German Empire collection will never be complete.
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Posted 09/07/2011   08:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PostmasterGS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I haven't seen an estimate of how many still exist. One seems to come up for auction every couple years.
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Posted 09/07/2011   08:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Randy Stinchcomb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
nice n' thanks for the history lesson
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Posted 09/07/2011   10:40 am  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I've always wanted one of these... but it's now in the "unachievable" category with respect to cost.

*sigh*
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Posted 09/07/2011   2:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PostmasterGS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Come on revenuecollector! You can still get one off-paper for only $4,000!
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Posted 09/08/2011   06:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rohumpy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Good grief, who would take the chance of buying one of those off cover? Seriously, can they be authenticated with any degree of confidence?
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