Venezuela Stamps I Can't Identify

Probably used as Revenues only,
Stanley Gibbons lists them however.

thanks for the response!

Hi who knew

These stamps are revenues used for school tax. Scott does not list foreign revenues unless they were used for postage. Stanley Gibbons says they were valid for postage but it is the only catalog that states this. The Blanco specialized Venezuela catalog does not mention anything about validity, except as revenue.

Below I have listed the catalog numbers and values for the entire set. The values are Minkus 1980 values updated to 2011 (Minkus value x 4):

Revenues Issued July 1904
Engraved: American Bank Note Company
Perf 12                     Michel
		Minkus	SG  Revenue Blanco Mint Used	
5c  green	R122	317  90     108    .20  .20 
10c gray	R123	318  91     109    .20  .20 
25c vermilion	R124	319  92     110    .20  .20
50c yellow	R125	320  93     111	   .20  .20
1b  claret	R126	321  94     112   4.00  .60
3b  blue	R127	322  95     113    .20  .20
10b violet	R128	323  96     114    .80 1.60
20b rose  	R129	324  97     115   2.00 1.60

Hope this helps.

Jerry B

Hi Jerry,
this was a conversation some years ago
on rcsd, you may recall it, from Blair.

This may be of interest to students of Venezuela?

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They are revenues which were also allowed for domestic postage.
In Spanish the term used is "(Estampillas Fisco Postales)"

Until 1895, stamps inscribed "correos" were expected to be used for
international mail.

Until 1895, stamps inscribed "escuelas" or "Instruccion" were used
for domestic postage OR for revenue purposes. I always assumed
that those used as revenue stamps had all or part of the proceeds
go towards building the education system. (Scott is silent on the
specific use of the revenues.)

From 1895, stamps inscribed "escuelas" or "Instruccion" were
not valid for postage.

Here is a comment from the well known dealers , Earl P L
Apfelbaum of Philadelphia.

After 1876 two sets of stamps to prepay postage are used side by side,
the "Correo" (Post), or "Correos" (Posts), and the
"Escuelas" (Schools), altered lately into "Instruccion" (Education).
Some authorities declare the latter labels to be revenue stamps which
may be used for postage like some of the Australian fiscals; others
again say that stamps of the "Correos" class are used for Foreign
postage, the proceeds of their sale going to the Post Office
Department, while the "Escuelas" and "Instruccion" stamps are set
apart for Inland postage, the revenue arising from their sale being
handed over to the minister of education for the maintenance of the
State Schools. But, as Dr. Moschkau remarks, "It is strange that in
spite of prolonged researches no official decree could be placed
before us to prove that those stamps were used exclusively for Inland
postal service as is presumed by many philatelists." Without entering
into this controversy we will at present take up the "Correos" stamps
only as being undoubtedly true postage stamps."

Blair

Scott used to list them 237 through 244.

Hi Rodney

I totally forgot about RCSD. Since this group, and one other, I hardly look at RCSD anymore. It is a shame RCSD deteriorated as it was pretty active for a long time.

I am amazed at the speed you answer posts. You must watch one typing a reply or original post I swear as soon as one hits the post button you are replying.

Thanks for reminding me about Blair's write up. I'll have to save the post.

Jerry B

Hi Rodney

They are not in the 1945 Scott catalog. I cannot find my 1927 catalog to check there.

Jerry B

Thankyou everyone for your inputs. I am amassing stamp knowledge at record speed!! Stamps can surely keep me busy for eons..

Hi Rodney

Found my 1927 catalog. They are not listed there either. What year Scott catalog has them listed

Jerry B

Hi Jerry,

that was what Richard C Witt had in his Cinderella page,
I am not sure what year he wrote them up.

The Witt collection seeems to have been removed
from the internet :(
Another great resource lost (like Mette's collection)

Hi Rodney,

I seem to remeber that someone, toke nerby?, was going to save Mette's pages and put them on the web. I just did a Google search and I found Mette's pages at:

http://heindorffhus.motivsamler.dk/

I guess one can download the pages so that will not be totally lost.

My oldest Scott catalog is 1926, not 1927. There is not question that the Richard C Witt data had to be prior to 1926.

Jerry B

Prior to 1926..whew! tough call
I shouldn't think so.
I have emailed Riga stamps to see if they have removed the witt collection

Thanks for the Heindorff link
gosh, she made great digital stamp pages.

Rod, you can still access the Witt collection pages online at

[EDIT: sorry, the entire link cannot be properly formatted properly in this forum]

COPY this link (do NOT click on it):

www.cinderellas.info/wittcoll/collection.htm

Then click on http://wayback.archive.org and paste the above link you copied into the URL box on their homepage. Then click on October 8, 2010 to access the most recent archived set of pages.

k

From the 1916 Scott catalog (yeah, you know the copyright has expired):

Thanks Kim
1916 catalogue



FYI
(Re The Cinderella font Riga Stamps)
and Richard C Witt resource
Mr. Riga...

Rodney

Rest assured, this resource has not been removed. The current unavailability is only a temporary situation while the server on which it is located is being upgraded. I'll let you know as soon as it is up and running again.

Roger Riga