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Posted 09/22/2011   2:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add jhlovell to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I have another UAR issue that I cannot find in the Scott catalog. Wondering if this is another of the un-stamps. Can anyone help? Thanks as always - Jeff

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Posted 09/22/2011   3:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Interestingly there's a 1962 version of this Proclamation of the National Charter. Same design except 10m denomination and printed in bright blue and dark brown. At the bottom it just says 'the Charter' with the denomination. It doesn't mention another issue, and certainly nothing in 1963. Sorry, guess that doesn't help you does it?
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Posted 09/22/2011   3:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yea james I saw that one and thought I was right on top of it, but I did not make out any arabic in the shield in Scott's and I could not find the 20m, so I was still lost. Thanks for checking though - jeff
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Posted 09/23/2011   03:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add huckles888 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Is this reference of any use?

1963 Proclamation of Yemeni Arab Republic - SG 740 10m. red and olive
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Posted 09/23/2011   04:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Huckle the value is 20m
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Posted 09/23/2011   09:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Okay a few responses but the difference between 10m and 20m does not seem to be resolved. Although Huckles888 seems to have the right colors. Is there another SG near 740 that is the right value? - Thanks everyone!
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Posted 09/23/2011   10:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Jeff,
you have stumped SCF
it doesn't happen often.
That is a toughie....

What has changed between the 10m Egypt is the language
in the top scroll,
If we can get someone to read that, we may get closer to solving.

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Edited by rod222 - 09/23/2011 10:16 am
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Posted 09/23/2011   10:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry to throw a Spaniard in the works (John Lennon) but Jeff's stamp reads UAR (United Arab Republic) which is Egypt. The Yemen Arab Republic would read YAR. I'm just sayin'.
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Posted 09/23/2011   10:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cursus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Why not Siria? It was also part of the UAR
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Posted 09/23/2011   11:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
While it is true that Syria was part of the UAR at one time, the currency would not be in milliemes. Therefore, it must be Egyptian.
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Posted 09/23/2011   12:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tinus_NL to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Found it. Check out the Michel catalog:




The 20M value is a revenue stamp (Steuermarke).
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Posted 09/23/2011   12:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well done!

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Posted 09/23/2011   12:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's the version I was referring to earlier. Note the denomination is wrong, and the text at the bottom of the stamp is different (this one says "the Charter" whereas Jeff's has 1963 and some Arabic script). Also the colours are different. Curiouser and curiouser!
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Posted 09/23/2011   12:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tinus_NL to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@james, I know it's the one you were refering to earlier. I'm refering to the added (german) text below the image, which basically says that similar stamps with a 20M denomination are revenue stamps. Pretty sure that's the case with jhlovell's stamp.
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Posted 09/23/2011   12:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, the footnote is the key.
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Posted 09/24/2011   12:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well done Tinus! You cracked it

15 minutes of fame for you :)

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