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Does anyone know what the white bars might be?
The left stamp is a normal France 1971 Scott 1293
In middle is the same issue with white vertical bars
On the right is the 80c (Scott 1294B) from the same set, again behind bars.
Any explanations?
Any jokes????
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The right 2 stamps have luminescent tagging. Scott does not assign a minor catalog number. However, there is a footnote above France #1043 in the catalog. |
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I take it that the 80c France Scott#1294B was a Scott after-thought. I say this because my old 1975 Scott Standard shows Scott#1293 as the 45c blue typographed Marianne and 50c France Scott#1294 as the 50c rose carmine engraved Marianne stamp. Is there a story here? |
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This set was issued over the period 1971-76 so the stamp catalogues have had to deal with extra values appearing later. The 80c carmine was first issued in 1974.
SG catalogues these three as SG 1905, SG 1905p and SG 1905bp where "p" refers to the phosphor bars (in British terminology). |
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khj, nigelc,
Thank you!
The bars glow yellow under short wave light.
I missed the note in Scott, but then it is located a decade earlier.
The bars are so obvious that it didn't occur to me check for tagging.
cynical,
1975 was the first year I bought a set of 'new' Scott's.
They were closeout priced and the dealer had run out of volume 2, so he sent a hard cover 1976.
I was pleased until I discovered that between 1975 and 1976, Scott rearranged some countries and adjusted the alphabetic coverage so that I had missing and duplicated countries between the 1975 and '76 catalogs.
Now I'm using a 2005 catalog and listing looks like this:
So, I guess the story on the listing is fairly typical.
I have enjoyed the more interesting stories about changes in listing on this forum. |
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Thanks Nigel and DStamp for that information. I will update my old 1975 catalogue.
I neglected to mention that I did not buy my catalogue new. It is one of those ones that libraries discard when they become dated or surplus to their needs. Mine is stamped "withdrawn" and may have cost me 50 cents some years ago in their annual book sale. It has certainly been worth it as most of my collection is pre-1960. |
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I'm current researching this issue. I find that there are four different versions of the 50c Marianne sheet stamp (I don't appear to own any coils).
(1) No fluorescence or phosphor bands.
(2) White fluorescence, no phosphor bands.
(3) White fluorescence with three vertical phosphor bars.
(4) Intense yellow fluorescence with two vertical phosphor bars - check your copies for this one - it looks amazing! |
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Be aware that you cannot always see the tagging bars like this. UV is the best method. The bars show up white when the used stamp is soaked in water with relatively high mineral content which I believe to be calcium or chalk. The same thing often happened with Great Britain Machins; I don't know if they still react like that. |
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Only the printings from the 13-16 sept. 1974 & 25-28 Feb. 1975 had no phosphore.The Reason
was the Postal administration wanted too curtail any monetary spéculations about the
possible accidental ommision of the phosphore bands.So if your stamp has no phosphore bands
it's from one of those printings.They have a small premium though... |
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Thanks for the information, perf 12! One printing must have been on fluorescent paper and the other on ordinary paper, then.
Are there any rare varieties we should keep a watch out for?
I'm moving on to the 80c and 1 fr. next and will report back when finished. |
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| Edited by jimjamtwo - 12/18/2018 11:00 pm |
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