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Dear stallzer, I see no difference really. If a reprint of the Mona Lisa became available to me, I would consider it a fake. I can empathise with you though about avoiding gaps in your album, the reason I went thematic. Better to have a genuine and smaller collection, that is how I look at it, but agree that this is subjective. |
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Quote: I see no difference really. If a reprint of the Mona Lisa became available to me, I would consider it a fake. Terminology ! It's that damn Terminology again, always pops up when you least [or most] expect it. In this case, what Skilo showed are reproductions of originals, not intended to cheat or fraud anyone or anything. I prefer to call them reproductions rather that reprints which often imply [but not always] that they are postally valid. The word 'Fake' can mean that there is the intention to deceive someone, but those shown by Skilo are not intended to decieve. If he was showing his collection to others, I am sure that he would not tell them they are real. I do not collect these [real] stamps due to cost but I do collect reproductions,Fakes and some [cheaper] forgeries as part of my Cinderella collection. Londonbus1 |
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Dear londonbus, Fake, one that is not authentic or genuine. Rather than get into a debate over semantics I prefer to state that 'in my mind' reproductions are fake. I bow to your definition, I am obviously in the minority here, but I do not mind. |
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A reprint is a re-publishing of material that has already been previously published. Forgery is the process of making, adapting, or imitating objects, statistics, or documents with the intent to deceive. Seems like they named them differently for a reason? Key word being 'deceive'. Pretty cut and dry if you ask me! I'd rather have these reprints than a genuine $600 spacefiller any day of the week. Oh yeah, any chance we could see scans of the ones in your collection in the myth? I think everyone is waiting with bated breath!  Have a good one, Skilo54 |
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I see a bar fight - and want to jump in... In my view what Skilo showed are not fakes but replicas of the original (printed using the original dies but not postally viable) really as good looking as the real thing. I have 4 PUCs in my collection, I would love to get copies of his other replicas or reproductions. Reprints are entirely different, they are extra printings by the issuing authority and they are postally viable...like the sea horses had a reprint after re-engraving (except for the 1pnd) None of the above are fakes. Fakes are produced by crooks with the intent to defraud and not using the original dies. BTW, for posterity it is much better to "screen print" the ebay items your are talking about, as now they are all useless and unreachable.  |
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Dear Perf14, No fight, I have agreed to differ. I have not been in the Community long and would not argue with more established members. I have not quite reached Orwell's idea of doublethink yet though and maintain my opinion even if it flies in the face of majority. |
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The word "reprint" is used in at least two ways when it comes to stamps:
1. New printings by the postal authority as suggested by Perf14. I see Perf14 is in Australia where different printings of recent stamps can be identified by marginal sheet markings with 1 koala, 2 koalas etc.
2. New printings from the original plates after the stamps have been withdrawn from sale. This has sometimes been done officially as a commemorative printing but often it's been unsauthorised printing by the original printer or by someone else who has gained control of the printing plates. A well-known example would be the Heligoland reprints made in the 1880s and 1890s. This is what I normally think of by the word.
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Hey in the myth, I found something you may be interested in, £385:  Pretty fair price too if you ask me? This Dealer is one of my favorites and I am sure you would be happy dealing with them as I have always been! Their material is exceptional! Candlish McCleery - http://www.candlishmccleery.com/sho...?id=2&page=1Happy browsing! Skilo54 |
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OOps, sorry bud! I posted the wrong stamp, I just remembered it was the Seahorse that you need, how forgetful of me.... Anyways, here is a nice one from the same dealer, priced at a cool £845  Havea good one, Skilo54 |
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Dear skilo 54, Thank you for the info. The £1 green Edward VII you showed me I can pick up for £135 any time, from a dealer in England. I am on probation at the minute so cannot tell you who it is. The Seahorse I can get for a shade cheaper also , the dealer whom I cannot mention yet gives me 20% loyalty discount on all sales, I have yet to find an equal to that, I have also yet to find several hundred pounds [laughing] |
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