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Posted 03/28/2012   09:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add ken11 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I'm not sure is this the correct thread to post this topic ?

Just wish to learn the following :

1.) what is the alphabet on the left & right bottom mean ?
2.) I noticed the value of the same type of GB Queen penny stamp
are vary with different plate number, how to identify these
plate number ?

Thanks
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Posted 03/28/2012   09:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add AnthonyUK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,
The letters indicate the position on the printing plate and were used to prevent forgery.
Identifying these by plate is an expert task. This type with two letters are known as penny stars so try here for some info

http://pennystars.com/
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Posted 03/28/2012   10:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ken11 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks AnthonyUK
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Posted 03/28/2012   12:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bujutsu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ken, this is the place to ask questions, so, just fire away

Welcome to the forum.

Chimo

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Posted 03/28/2012   6:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Londonbus1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The values of the 1841 Penny Reds/Red Browns depends on if the stamp was printed from a Penny Black plate or not, in most cases.
Often the postmark plays a bigger part in the value.
If you haven't found out before, I can find out the plate number tomorrow, but it does not look like an early printing, therefore of lowewr value.
But it does have a nice post 1844 Square numbered cancel for Edinburgh !

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Posted 03/29/2012   04:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ken11 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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The values of the 1841 Penny Reds/Red Browns depends on if the stamp was printed from a Penny Black plate or not, in most cases.
Often the postmark plays a bigger part in the value.
If you haven't found out before, I can find out the plate number tomorrow, but it does not look like an early printing, therefore of lowewr value.
But it does have a nice post 1844 Square numbered cancel for Edinburgh !

Londonbus1


Appreciate that, and I have a lot of undefined GB stamp which I can't find any info on scott catalog
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Posted 03/29/2012   05:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rohumpy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ken11, probably the best starting point is the Stanley Gibbons specialised catalog, volume 1 which covers Queen Victoria. The stamp you have shown is the penny red imperf with stars in the upper corners. Plating this stamp requires some rather specialized knowledge and good reference materials. A later issue showing letters in all four corners has the plate number incorporated into the design of the stamp and therefore requires only a good magnifying glass for the most part.

On the penny red imperfs with stars, look for Maltese Cross cancellations. These usually, but not always, indicate early usages of the stamps, and therefore early plate numbers. These can have considerable value depending on the plate and variety.
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Posted 03/29/2012   10:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ken11 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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ken11, probably the best starting point is the Stanley Gibbons specialised catalog, volume 1 which covers Queen Victoria.


Is this catalog in soft copy like CD or DVD ?
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Posted 03/29/2012   12:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ldhaber to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
No, or at least not yet. The current edition of the SG Specialised Vol I (QV) just recently came out and is hardbound. It can be found, in the US at $74 at http://www.regencystamps.com/ItemDe...x?itemid=888

For the occasional stamp I don't think it would be really useful and if you were interested in seriously getting into plating the imperf red pennies, you'd need some pretty specialized reference material that would likely set you back a bit.

I can't plate these based on a web based jpg, but in the flesh I can. If you were to send me the stamp, I'd be happy to take a shot for you. Perhaps others, can plate from the web image.

-Larry
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Posted 03/30/2012   06:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rohumpy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I haven't checked lately, but I would think some earlier editions of the QV specialised would be available on Amazon for considerably less than 74 dollars.

To clarify my original post on this topic---I did not mean to say or imply that with the QV specialised you can plate the penny reds. In some cases yes, but to select a penny red at ramdom and expect to plate it from the QV catalog is very unrealistic.
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Posted 03/30/2012   10:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ken11 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I can't plate these based on a web based jpg, but in the flesh I can. If you were to send me the stamp, I'd be happy to take a shot for you. Perhaps others, can plate from the web image.

-Larry


Larry, what are the fees involve for this ?
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Posted 03/30/2012   3:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ldhaber to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ken,

Two things:

1. please check your email
2. Bill Barrell in the UK does plating for a fairly low fee of £2 a stamp plus postage. check him out at http://www.barrell.co.uk/services.htm I think there are others who do plating for a nominal fee, but Bill is the first to come to mind.

-Larry
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Posted 03/30/2012   4:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Londonbus1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ken,

The stamp you have is after Plate 70 so the value is low, considering the condition. It is not worth your time or money to send it for plating.
My friend on a Plating Group could not tell exactly the Plate because of the cancel.
Just keep it as an example of a Penny Red with a nice Edinburgh strike !

Londonbus1
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