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Posted 04/30/2012   12:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Selva to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Guys, what is it with both these stamps?Same stamps but different colours.Are they two different series or is one faded?

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Posted 04/30/2012   12:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Technically, not the same stamp.

The left stamp is from a horizontal coil roll, and corresponds to US #721(1932) in the Scott catalog. The right stamp is from the sheet, and is Scott #720(1932).

Both stamps will have minor color variations, from deep violet (normal color) to light violet.

However, the stamp at right is clearly a color changeling (bleached, either in the water or by the sun). My guess is water bleached, based on the appearance of the paper and the cancel.
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Posted 04/27/2014   7:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I found this older thread when looking for an answer to the same question. Obviously, the bluer stamp (my left example) is either bleached or a little too much sun.

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Posted 04/27/2014   7:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As long as we're on the subject of these George Washington Stamps, here's something I've always wondered about:

Why is it that the stamps have very odd shading behind George Washington's coat? It's not over-inking or an error or freak, etc., as every stamp issued has the same feature, but it seems kind of strange that the engraver's didn't think to fine tune that aspect of the design ... or was there a legitimate reason for it?

As an example of what I'm talking about, I used the previous scan and circled the areas in question:


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Posted 04/27/2014   8:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am guessing that it was actually part of the coat ... the style of the day. Here is my US 17 with a similar look:

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Posted 04/27/2014   8:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Good answer.

There was some kind of a ribbon or decoration on the back of the coat that carried over into the stamp design. I never thought of that before!
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Posted 04/27/2014   8:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Newby Stamper to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I was thinking a ribbon on the pony tale from the wig that was worn in the day?
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Posted 04/27/2014   8:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I was thinking a ribbon on the pony tale from the wig that was worn in the day?


That is also a strong possibility as there are several other stamps which clearly show a quite length pony tail on both Washington and Jefferson.
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Posted 04/27/2014   8:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I Googled George Washington, the pictures. That ribbon (?) or decoration (?) is on a whole bunch of pictures.
A first I thought he might have had very long, braided hair with a ribbon in it as was common at the time.

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Posted 04/27/2014   9:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Newby Stamper to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A lot of the old Revolution people like judges and statesmen to presidents wore the long white wigs and everyone that I have ever seen to a point in history that I can not date had a ribbon in the ponytail at just about the same length. I'm still learning a lot here with you gurus. Thanks
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Posted 04/28/2014   09:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add eligies to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
just to get better view , I used my off-set dental mirror to view the back of the neck and yes indeed there is a bow about 1/4 the way up from the bottom of the 'pig-tail' on George's wig. Seriously...! There are several large statues of Washington in the Boston-Cambridge area and if one were to gaze upon the statue as a whole (all around) you would see a bow on the pig-tail and I believe that the perspective of the portrait (Stewart) is just that.
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