Scotland Locals- Cinderellas

Hi Friends!
Recently I purchased few elephant stamps/covers as a collection, I got few Scotland locals along with it..
Any idea who issued these stamps, do they have any philatelic value?

They have value if you are an Elephant or bogus stamp collector.
They have dubious British businessman Clive Feigenbaum written all over them !

What does the copyright say on the right side ?

Londonbus1: You're apparently right on track! I enlarged the stamp and while I can't see the copyright date (I suspect it is 1982 or thereabouts, though) it does go on to read: "Philatelic Leasing, Ltd.". When I did an internet search for that entity here in the US, I came up with this US court case from 1986 that explains a lot...including Clive Feigenbaum's involvement in it!

http://openjurist.org/794/f2d/781/u...-leasing-ltd

yes its written "1982 philatelic leasing Ltd"

Here are three more that I have. And I feel sad that I didn't knew they were Cinderellas when I swapped real stamps to lay my hands on these.

I have lots of stamps and sheets from there,are these all Cinderellas?

Hi Tigger. To learn something about these just google the names on the "stamps", like 'Staffa stamps' and 'Davaar stamps'.

Peter

Hi Peter,
Yes had a quick search and again all these type stamps then come under the heading "Cinderella".

The only problem I have with this type of stamp, once you put a value on the stamp or item, it is inferring
it has a postal value? I have had this discussion with my own stamp club members here on the U.K and I think
this creation of listing just allows people to get away with legality.
Because anyone can thus print off a stamp in any form or obscure island and sell it. From what I have just read about these
this would be a classic example. What I would love to know is how you can get hold of a perforating machine and equipment
to produce these in the first place. O.K Imperfs is no problem, we could all knock up some version or the other that way.
I recently purchased some Equatorial Guinea stamps and it was perfectly clear these were not official because the perforating was so bad.
The point is, if your not aware of this type thing you can be led astray. The internet is a marvelous thing if you have time to
spend hours trolling through pages of things not much related to what your looking for.
So from my point of view, anything that has a value printed on it is fraudulent with INTENT, under this heading (if implied as a postal value).

Maybe it is just the way I think, I do not know. But as Athul has said he feels duped. I think he has perfect right to be.

To add further upon your advice Peter I have been on the internet all afternoon and what a ride it has been!
Admittedly its not been easy but I now to, can sympathize with Athul, whilst I collect by theme I have now learned some 5% of my collection is dubious in authenticity? If I include the ones I already knew were "Cinderellas" possibly 10% as I went from FDC's to stamp sheets, it could be even more as I know I have one folder of FDC which I now know is entirely this category now.
The disappoitment is not that I have been conned because as I say I collect by theme and not worth but as I have read, I can go on the Royal Mail web site and create labels which are just as good for the same price and at least I will have valid stamps as the label comes attached to a valid stamp.
So we can see even the mail service has seen a market for this type of thing and yet in the case of the fellow who made Staffa, Eynhallow etc was banished for his crime, we have the Royal Mail doing the same sort of thing. I do have to say I am fast being put off with stamp collecting now but wished I had of joined a stamp forum long ago, I have to also say an American one, as I have learned more in the few days of membership here than I have with my UK counterpart, I am also gutted that I have just signed up to a stamp magazine which I shall now cancel in 6 months time and maybe I will join the ATA.
I do not quite understand why I feel the way I do but I suppose it boils down to integrity and that anyone with the equipment can knock up some vague stamp set and sell it. What I am really pleased I have learned is some of the terms used relating to "Cinderella's" which again I would never have known about or understood, so a big thank you to the articles I have read about in here in my quest for something entirely different.

Since the nineteenth century, postal authorities have been making money from stamp collectors with issues for which there was no real postal need. In the last fifty or so years, that's become worse and worse. People talk about the "wallpaper" issues of former European colonies, but there is now, in fact, a river of what many would consider philatelic dross from the UK, the US and elsewhere. Exactly the same happens elsewhere - eg coins. Cinderellas or various kinds, or odd local issues, are something else again. I think the point is not to be put off collecting, but find what you like, find out about it - including its market price (which may well be very low indeed) - and take it from there. Don't give up!

It is surprising how many collectors of wallpaper (non-postal) labels.

Certainly many less than the collectors of postal wallpaper, i.e. the majority of the postal issues of the last 50 years.
Michele

BUMP! Examples of Staffa and Eynhallow ... posted here because ... I could! Enjoy.

Eynhallow 1977

Staffa 1974
Staffa Honours 25 years of Postal Service, Israel.

Thematic : Cinderellas / Stamps on Stamps.

IMO, the Staffa and Eynhallow labels, are not "cinderellas" but wall paper / bogus issues to frame collectors and take their money under the disguisse of "local issues". While it never has been any local post on these islands, like there are (as far as I know) in Lundy or Pabay.