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Identifying US Confederate States

 
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Posted 06/18/2012   12:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add ken11 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Dear All
Happy Father's Day to all Dads, perhaps not forgetting moms who also play important roles.



I found these stamps from a dust covered album, will appreciate if any expert here can help out to identify them.

Thanks in advance

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Posted 06/18/2012   07:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice stamps, and I like the cinderella labels that go with them. However I'd say they are all, with the exception of #5, are reproductions, probably Springfield reproductions from the Talon Stamp company. The engravings are just too crude. As for #5, it was never issued in the 10 cent denomination. That one is a later private printing from plates made during the Civil War, but never issued by the Confederacy. Therefore it is also not an original stamp.
If you have a good look at the paper on the Springfields, you'll probably see that it's newsprint, a cheap woodpulp based paper. I've got an example of #1, and if you look with a loupe, you can actually see bits of wood chips.
Nice group though. These are collectible in their own right (I think) and make an interesting side collection.
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Edited by jamesw - 06/18/2012 07:44 am
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Posted 06/18/2012   11:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a good website on Confederate forgeries:

http://home.comcast.net/~kr.baker/csa/fakes/
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Posted 06/19/2012   01:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ken11 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:

Here is a good website on Confederate forgeries:

http://home.comcast.net/~kr.baker/csa/fakes/


Thanks for the link, but my stamps are not listed there....wrote to the webmaster for further info.
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Posted 06/19/2012   3:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add doug2222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My guess would be that yours are considered first and foremost as "reprints," since they come from a much later time period (I believe), and were not printed to defraud the Confederate postal system, or stamp collectors either. They were widely recognized as merely something to fill in the album spaces. George Linn, founder of Linn's, likewise produced "space-fillers," that would never fool anybody, and weren't meant to -- they showed a reasonable resemblance to the real thing, and people bought them to avoid staring at all those wide open spaces...
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Posted 06/19/2012   7:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Doug is correct. If these are the Springfield 'forgeries', which I believe they are, they were for young collectors to paste in a book that the Tatham Stamp and Coin Co. (sorry, I was wrong when I said Talon in my earlier posting...working from memory doesn't always work well) published.
Here's a website where you can download an interesting article about these and other Confederate fakes and forgeries.

stamps.org/userfiles/file/AP/coast/Collecting0111.pdf

I would also highly recommend Dr. Kimbrough's website for information on forgeries and other aspects of Confederate stamps.

http://www.jlkstamps.com/fakes/fakecsa.htm#fantasy

The Springfield stamps are interesting because the early ones, while somewhat cruder than the originals, raised the ire of some collectors, so they eventually had to print the word facsimilie on the back. I have one just like your #1, which was the first CSA stamp I bought. Took me over a year to realize it wasn't genuine. Live and learn.
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Posted 06/20/2012   05:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ken11 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My Goodness, stamp collecting is not an "EASY" hobby !
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Posted 08/11/2016   6:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rlmstamps2012 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I came across this thread and thought I would post the only
confederate stamp I have found. I did read about the Cinderellas.

I would enjoy any opinion regardless of what direction it might go.

edit; It could be a # 4?




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Edited by rlmstamps2012 - 08/11/2016 8:04 pm
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Posted 08/11/2016   10:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I would suggest that this is an early Springfield facsimile. Early because there is no facsimile number which was added to later issues. The paper also looks wrong. I think this looks like modern newsprint.
However, I could easily be wrong, so please feel free to persuade me other wise.

I would also suggest you look at Trish Kaufmann's website. On the page I'm linking she is selling #4s. Have a look and compare.

http://www.trishkaufmann.com/csa-4-...on-davis.php
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Edited by jamesw - 08/11/2016 11:30 pm
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Posted 08/12/2016   09:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rlmstamps2012 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you jamesw.

Very nice link.

I was not surprised by your opinion. I also had my doubts.
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Posted 10/27/2019   8:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Postage Rates, Confederate States 1865
Source : Warrocks Almanac

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