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Bahamas Revenue Cancel?

 
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Posted 11/13/2012   11:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Partime to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Found this early example, classified as Scott 44. Only one of my stamps with a handwritten cancel. Could this be classified as a Revenue cancel? Or is it short for "Deadmail"?

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Posted 11/14/2012   01:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add doug2222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, clearly a revenue cancel, and the poorer countries tended to use handwriting instead of punches or rubber stamps.
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Posted 11/15/2012   3:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 1847bill to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I concur, it is a revenue cancel.
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Posted 11/15/2012   5:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Might just be worth digging a little deeper. There's a Little Deadman Cay in the Bahamas. It's an outside chance, but Little Deadman Cay might not have had a cancelling device, and might have used manuscript cancellations. If so, that stamp could be worth a few dollars to a Bahamas specialist.
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Posted 11/15/2012   8:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice work Tony!
I'd be chasing that up, quick smart.
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Posted 11/15/2012   8:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks guys for the help. I was wondering what is the normal wording to even put on Revenue hand-written cancels? I would assume the date, or some wording to the effect that something was paid. But when I saw, "Deadm .." it left me wondering also.
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Posted 11/15/2012   8:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add doug2222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Note that the stamp does not say "Postage and Revenue" like so many early Commonwealth stamps. I just looked in Scott, and none of the Bahamas stamps until the long definitives of 1948 are inscribed "Postage and Revenue." But to make it more complex, there are NO Bahamas revenues listed in my old copy of Barefoot & Hall. All very strange.
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Posted 11/15/2012   9:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add soft-pro to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely a revenue cancel. Probably paid some kind of land tax or legal fee. Deadman Cay is likely location.
Good find
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Posted 11/19/2012   11:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Deadman's Cay is the largest settlement on Long Island (Bahamas, not New York), and is not an island. (Little Deadman's Cay is an island.)

The list of Bahamas post offices at pbbooks.com has a Deadman's Cay postmark, with a start date of 1911 (though I believe the author doesn't claim to be encyclopedic with start dates).

If this was used during Edward's reign, it would predate the 1911 start date for postmarks...so, that doesn't rule out either possibility, postal or revenue.

Just more information to search with...not a definitive answer. It certainly looks like a revenue cancel, though.
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Posted 11/19/2012   12:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add okka to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I would go for manuscript postal cancel. It is an unusual rate for revenue.

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Posted 11/19/2012   12:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scotzm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In all probability it is revenue used on a receipt... but...
in a few instances there was a need for using a T.R.D.(temporary rubber datestamp) and there are times and instances when the Postmaster/mistress found it was quicker penning the name and date across the stamps.
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Posted 11/19/2012   1:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add okka to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Deadman's Cay Post Office was opened in 1911. In all probability the steel cancel had not arrived and there was no other recourse than to use a manuscript cancel.

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Posted 11/19/2012   4:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Since the stamp only shows a Partial City and Date, it would seem that there was another stamp to the right that got separated years ago with the remainder of the information. That would explain the odd rate, wouldn't it? If it was not a revenue usage, then I don't know why they would be so careful in writing this additional information. Wouldn't they just put a big X through it? A very interesting thread, and still some unanswered questions. Thanks for everyone's input.
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