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Does Anyone Have A Mailer's Postmark Permit?

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Posted 08/12/2013   10:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Zuzu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Excellent! We'll have to exchange some more mail when you receive yours. ;)
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Posted 08/23/2013   8:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add guykickinit to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I did it!!
I got the call today from the postmaster that I have permit #1. I've already emailed Joe to discuss my order. I am going with a classic look.

this is the image from the catalog. My wife liked it best.
I do believe I may roll it out with a limited edition First day of Use cover. Probably sent under another cover of sorts so as not to run the risk of having it spray canceled. The PO here said they do not seperate the metered from the regular. But Im still working on that.

As for getting the permit; The the PM did't know how to handle it. I gave her the completed permit application with the seven page app from the MPPC along with a printout of Joes cat.
We spoke at length about how long it had been around, and to her amazement it sounded too good to be true. She wanted to just give me the permit, but didn't know how. I gave her a copy of everythin I had and she said she would try to get back to me this week. Well her word is true and she left me a message that I get permit #1.
Hopefully as the new stamp club I am founding gets going, more of our collectors may choose this endeavor. I plan on scooping up Permit #2 for the club. Hopefully I can get some donations from the club alum to help out on that.
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Member of the Central Oregon Stamp Club.
Redmond, OR 97756 Mailer's Postmark Permit #1
APS 239403
Bedrock Of The Community
United States
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Posted 08/24/2013   12:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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We spoke at length about how long it had been around


Interesting you brought that up. I was curious if anyone knows how long these MPP have been around?

I did find on ebay some classic examples of MPPs from decades ago, with the earliest shown to be 1933. In any event, it looks like an interesting specialty collecting discipline:



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Posted 08/24/2013   08:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add guykickinit to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Isn't it fitting that a Precancel club should have an MPP to "pre" postage?

I wonder if there are still 512 permits in that location today?
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Member of the Central Oregon Stamp Club.
Redmond, OR 97756 Mailer's Postmark Permit #1
APS 239403
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Posted 08/24/2013   12:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Zuzu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I really like that Topeka MPP, especially the postmark/CDS portion.
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Posted 08/28/2013   6:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add guykickinit to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I talked to Joe about getting the rubber cancel, he said it will this week. YAY Of course we forgot to talk about payment, but Im sure he'll get to that.
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Member of the Central Oregon Stamp Club.
Redmond, OR 97756 Mailer's Postmark Permit #1
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Posted 08/28/2013   8:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Zuzu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
When I purchased from Joseph, he simply included an invoice in the package and I mailed him a check. (I used my brand spankin' new MPP, of course!)
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Posted 08/30/2013   08:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add guykickinit to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thats awesome! I'll do that too of course! How long did it take?
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Posted 08/30/2013   09:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Zuzu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It really didn't take too long, considering he's pretty much running a one-man business from what I understand. Despite some unexpected surgery and a kerfuffle with his supplier, Joseph was able to get the stamp to me in one month. He kept me updated during that time, and it sounds as though it would have been even faster if the supplier had not loused things up.
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Posted 08/30/2013   8:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add guykickinit to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Got a call from Joe, said his supplier can no longer make the stamp with dates.
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Member of the Central Oregon Stamp Club.
Redmond, OR 97756 Mailer's Postmark Permit #1
APS 239403
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Posted 09/30/2013   8:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add guykickinit to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Now that I've used it a few times, and talking with the postal workers, they told me to just drop it in the box, that I don't have to hand it to them.
Im gonna try to just drop it in my outgoing which is part of the box cluster.
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Redmond, OR 97756 Mailer's Postmark Permit #1
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Posted 10/01/2013   01:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Zuzu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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they told me to just drop it in the box, that I don't have to hand it to them.
I would use mine so much more often if I could do that. I may try dropping a few in the blue box outside the PO.
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Posted 10/01/2013   1:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add vacuum man to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If you drop it in the regular mailbox how do you get around that it might get mixed up with the regular mail and then spray canceled at the local sorting facility?
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Posted 10/02/2013   3:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I Brake For Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A question has been bugging me for a long time, so I said to myself..."Self, ask the stupid question!"

I can't understand why anyone would want or need their own mailers postmark permit. Why get one?


Thanks...
-IBFS
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Posted 11/12/2014   01:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add canarywolf to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi all. I am late to the thread, but can add some value as I own several MPPs. A few points in response to this thread as a whole:

1) The USPS still issues MPP numbers to individuals for philatelic purposes. My first MPP was obtained in November of 2013. I now have them in three different towns, one town in which I am a "pioneer" of sorts, holding the first MPP.
2) There are two "authorized" MPP formats - Type A and Type Z - but other designs can also be approved, provided the essential information is on the stamp: city, state, zip (Type A) or "Mailed from Zip XXXXX" (Type Z), plus the permit number. MPPs, in my experience, are governed by each post office separately. That is, some will (wrongfully) refuse one from using an MPP, while others are quite liberal and essentially throw away the DMM in regards to designs (pictorial postmarks, for ex.).
3) There is no prohibition to multiple designs associated with a single permit, unless the issuing office prohibits such. I have three different designs for my MPP #475 in San Antonio, Texas. The key is: If you create a new design that it is approved and that the PO has it on record for cross referencing. This is so they know you are the one using the MPP and mot someone else using your number.
4) you do not have to reside near the office. I have two permits outside of the city I live - one twenty minutes away, the other an hour and twenty minutes away. Since postmarked mail must be dropped off at the office – and not dropped in any blue mail box, etc – I often mail my postmarked mail, enclosed in a large envelope, to the individual at bulk mailing at the PO. Then they enter it into the mails as if I had dropped it off in person. This remailing typenof thing is convenient if younwant to use an MPP from afar.
5) The individual post office that issues you the MPP number is the only location you should process your mail through, though, in larger areas, the GMF could process it as well. The point Inwould stress is that serious MPP users get a system established for their mail, which requires getting to know the different clerks who are aware of what you're doing. As it's been pointed out, many are clueless about MPPs. This said, while it may be possible to have your mail processed at a GMF, stick with thenlocal office for the process' sake.
6) MPP mail will be overpostmarked with a machine cancel if a clerk at your office doesn't handle it properly. MPP holders are responsible for communicating this until it sticks- ask for your mail to placed in its own bin and stress that it has been postmarked according to DMM permissions and that it is philatelic. I include a standard descriptive print-out with each mail batch I drop to be placed in the been. MPP cancelled mail should be sent directly to the OCR.

If anyone has questions about this I may be able to help. Also, the MPPClub is a great group, but has been inactive lately. This is unfortunate, though may be impermanent.

Lastly, I would be interested in swapping xovers with other MPP holders. Please contact me!

My first MPP cancel is here, pressed yesterday: https://www.stampcommunity.org/uplo...11_image.jpg

-K.E.
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