Bremen Stamp

Any idea on value(if any)?

On ebay now: 310616959683, $47.00, no bids

Germany States Bremen 1863 2 Gr Mi5d Fine Mint no gum RARE

Mint, Very Fine, no gum. No hidden faults - as per scan. Bremen stamps in good conditions are rare!

Michel 5d (chalky paper). Michel catalogue value is 600 Euro = 750 USD (for the stamp without gum).

with the perforations clipped, worth absolutely nothing in Germany,

Okka

colour and definition of print look different on mine in comparison to the e bay stamp are there anyways to tell if mine is a fake.

Thanks Okka

Hi Okka,

Thought I had shown mine at beginning of post!

Is there a problem with my image?

I thought the scan you showed was the item from ebay. Both have clipped perfs.

Is your a scan or photo, photo's are useless for stamps.

In my opinion both are worthless,

Okka

Sorry yes mine is a photograph and yes it,s not great quality.Not much I can do about that do not have scan facility, I beleive this particular stamp has roullete type perfs but I do agree it looks like one side has been trimmed.
The colour of mine is much lighter and not as bold,and also the number 2's in the corners look slightly different. Was just wondering if there is a difinitive way to identify if it is genuine or fake.

Thanks for your time Okka.

KATHLAV-----they were poorly perforated using the serpentine roulette method ,but most are found being cut apart with scissors .Let me get examples from my collection .

Here are copies from my collection .
To answer some of your questions the originals are perforated 13 .There are engraver's "secret marks" they are coloured dots on the originals.There is one of these dots in the middle of the head of the P of POST; one in the top hollow of the S, and another in the bottom hollow of the S of that word; one in the center of the bottom half of the A of AMT.There is two in the S of STADT,the same as in the S of POST ,and one in the A of STADT,the same as in the A of AMT.
There are four different types of forgeries that are known .one forgery is perf. 13 X12 1/2 ,the second is perf. 12 1/2 the third and fourth are perforated 15 1/2 with other details .

Thanks Floortrader,
as always very informative,i am off to get tweezers, and glasses such poor lighting with these horrid energy saving bulbs can't see a thing.I also have one of the Green 5 Sgr with no perfs at all must have been trimmed also.
Off to look for secret dots.
Many thanks once again.

Thanks Rhino Dino for posting the e Bay image,

Well am seeing no dots where there should be dots , and pretty sure i've counted 15 1/2 perf so yet another forgery in my stepdads collection.
Will I ever find treasure, Arghh... (said with a pirate accent).

Thanks everyone ...back to the drawing board.