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Posted 07/04/2013   7:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add mobilman44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi,
While I love them for mailing letters, I totally dislike self adhesive stamps for collecting purposes. Ok, that's just me.....

When did they first come out as everyday postage?

Thanks,

Mobilman44
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Posted 07/04/2013   7:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This quote is taken right from the USPS website:


Quote:
The Postal Service originally developed self-adhesive stamps to make precanceled stamps more secure. Precanceled stamps are canceled across the face before being sold. In the late 1960s, as many as 20 percent of them were soaked off and reused. Precanceled stamps skipped a processing step that often caught reused stamps.

With the Christmas 1974 issue, the Postal Service experimented with a self-adhesive precanceled stamp. It was believed that the tightly bonded self-adhesive would not permit stamps to be soaked off. An additional security feature placed slits in the stamps to foil attempts to peel them off. Unfortunately, the stamps cost three to five times more to produce than regular postage stamps, they could still be soaked off and reused, and stamps in the hands of collectors started to self-destruct.

In 1989, the Postal Service again experimented with self-adhesive stamps, this time with emphasis on customer convenience. The new self-adhesives had a water-soluble adhesive and were produced on coated paper, so the effects of the adhesive would not be destructive. Introduced nationwide in 1992, self-adhesive stamps quickly became popular with customers. By 2002, nearly all new U.S. commemorative stamp issues were self-adhesive.


If you are interested in specific stamp issues, one must identify with whether or not you're talking about "experimental" stamps, regular/definitive issue postage stamps or commemorative stamps. They each have their own introduction dates.

In general, though:

Scott 1552 - Issued 1974 - First US Self Adhesive Stamp (Precancelled) - Christmas Weathervane.

Scott 2431 - Issued 1989 - First Booklet Self Adhesive Stamp - Eagle & Shield - Sold at Premium of $5 for 18 25-cent stamps.

Scott 2522 - Issued 1991 - Experimental "F" Flag Stamp for First National Bank ATM in Seattle, Washington.

Of course, from there several other experimental issues, definitive issues and holiday stamps were issued with self-adhesive backing (and in some cases, both in self-adhesive and gummed varieties). This Linn's article summarizes many of them:

http://www.linns.com/howto/refreshe...rcourse.aspx

As for a commemorative stamps (other than regular/definitive and holiday issues), I believe Scott 3121 (Brigadier General Benjamin O. Davis) issued on January 28, 1997 was the first "commemorative" stamp issued with self adhesive backing, as printed by Banknote Corporation of America.
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Edited by wt1 - 07/04/2013 7:38 pm
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Posted 07/05/2013   03:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Terence Collins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The GB first issue of self adhesive stamps was on 10th February 1974. Very nice by comparison with the bland modern GB issues. More here.....

Terry

http://lists.rushstamps.co.uk/re64/p048.pdf

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Posted 07/05/2013   07:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mobilman44 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you!

I recall my first attempts to soak them............ it wasn't pretty.

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Posted 07/05/2013   1:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Terence Collins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I never did try soaking them, but I have read all sorts of methods for getting them released. Some quite involved. All that tended to put me off.

Terry
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Posted 07/05/2013   9:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add therealwesty to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In Canada the self adhesive stamps have a water soluble layer between the gum and the stamp paper. After a few minutes of soaking the stamps will separate from the paper leaving the gum behind stuck to the piece of cover. Pretty nice compared to what I hear from collectors of other countries.
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Posted 07/05/2013   9:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGV Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I believe that Australia issued a self adhesive stamp around end of 1800's to early 1900's.

Someone from Aussie must know if I am right or not.
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Posted 04/09/2014   3:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add JanS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Terence -- your link to the GB self/ad stamp is dead -- what stamp was it? The horse chestnut tree?

Does anyone know when the UNsoakable GB self/ad started? I have piles here and don't know which ones to risk putting into water. Particularly the Christmas ones, which seem perhaps to have turned to unsoakable earlier than the general commemoratives?

Is there somewhere that lists which ones do or don't soak - or does someone know?

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Posted 04/09/2014   7:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Terence Collins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi JanS,

No it wasn't the tree, it was these much nicer stamps.

Terry

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Posted 04/09/2014   8:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scotzm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Royal Mail's first self-adhesive trials stamp issued 19th October 1993 to test customer acceptability. The horizontal format was to differentiate them from normal Machin gummed stamps. Issued in booklets of 20 1st class NVI stamps.



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Posted 04/10/2014   08:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TinMan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I hate self adhesives as a collector and am wondering if there is a list anywhere that tells what U.S. stamps are self adhesive and which are not. There must be a list somewhere. Listing them by Scott Number.
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Posted 04/10/2014   09:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 22crows to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This link will take you to the story on Terry's stamps (page 49):

http://view.pagetiger.com/RushStamp...1/page49.htm

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Posted 04/10/2014   09:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Terence Collins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am with TinMan on these self adhesive stamps. I also wonder about the permanence (or lack of it) of the ink used for the self adhesive counter printed postage labels and stamps. I have seen lengthy articles by various people on how to soak self adhesives off paper. Not for me.

Terry
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Posted 04/10/2014   11:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TinMan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
22crows The article is GB though not U.S. The U.S. was somewhere around 1974 though. The first U.S. stamp was a Christmas Stamp Dove of Peace Scott# 1552. I just found it. Now almost all Commemorates are self adhesive. That's why I quit collecting U.S. stamps about the year 2010.

I had to cut them off somewhere.


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Posted 04/10/2014   12:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scotzm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
...a list anywhere that tells what U.S. stamps are self adhesive and which are not.

Yes, mostly. The Scott 2014 Specialized Catalog is using a symbol (a red circle with a black S inside) against a set or individual stamps to show which are NOT suitable for soaking and those prices are for stamps clipped neatly on the original envelope etc. Of the three US printers used, only one continues to use water-soluble dual-layer paper thus stamps from the other printers are now unsafe for soaking.
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Posted 04/11/2014   08:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TinMan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
scotzm I have that catalog and am aware of the Red Circle but I was looking for an easier way to tell if a stamp is self adhesive or not. A simple list would do just fine.
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