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Royal Mail Stamps V. US Stamp Program

 
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Posted 11/18/2013   08:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add wt1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
An interesting blog to read for those who care to compare what the US Stamp Program is like as compared to that offered in the UK by Royal Mail:

http://blog.norphil.co.uk/2013/11/r...es-post.html
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Posted 11/18/2013   12:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Terence Collins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hmmm. No mention of UK dealers cancelling their contracts with Royal Mail because they can't sell modern GB stamps resulting in devaluation of their stock. Or of dealers using their stocks of modern GB stamps for postage to offset their outlay. Or of UK collectors giving up on collecting GB stamps because of the excessive numbers of, generally poorly designed, spurious issues each year in various alternative guises intended to lure the completist collectors. One year of issues can total near on $1000. You can get a lot of "real" stamps for that. US and GB.

Terry
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Posted 11/18/2013   1:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The article did, however, mention that many US stamps have the requirement to buy full panes because of how the stamps perforations are interlocked, suggesting that UK stamps do not have such stringent buy requirements that ultimately have to be used for postage to use up the overages.
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Posted 11/18/2013   1:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Terence Collins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, I noticed that difference between the UK and US. Those would be self adhesive stamps I suppose? There are very few modern UK stamps that would get my hand in my pocket. Same with the US issues. I had thought of putting together a collection of "The Very Best of the Modern British Stamps". Should be cheap enough to buy.

Terry
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Edited by Terence Collins - 11/18/2013 1:53 pm
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Posted 11/20/2013   06:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add norvic to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As the blog author I thank the OP for drawing members attention to it.

Terry wrote:
"No mention of UK dealers cancelling their contracts with Royal Mail because they can't sell modern GB stamps resulting in devaluation of their stock. Or of dealers using their stocks of modern GB stamps for postage to offset their outlay. Or of UK collectors giving up on collecting GB stamps because of the excessive numbers of, generally poorly designed, spurious issues each year in various alternative guises intended to lure the completist collectors. "

The main purpose of the blogpost was to inform UK readers and collectors of GB stamps of the difference in approach between the two organisations. I have no knowledge about the USPS' contractual arrangements with any dealers for standing orders of new issues - which is why I didn't make any comparison - but from what I understand from US-based dealers and collectors, both are cutting back on which new issues they collect and have been (as they have been here) for a decade or more.

But to confirm what you wrote. Rushstamps and the Edinburgh Stamp Shop are two of the higher profile companies that have stopped dealing in new issues. So have we at Norvic because Royal Mail make it easy to buy collectibles on ebay and on their own webshop. What they don't do is provide a philatelic service for specialist Machin collectors, and they have been happy for the Trade to fill that gap. However, there were murmurings at the Trade Briefing in September that they are reviewing what they make available to collectors of stamps other than 'collectable pictorials'.

Much of the discount postage being used (or sold) by dealers comes from collectors liquidating their holdings. But as you say, we are also using the stamps that we bought but which proved less saleable. I have stocks of Olympic and Paralympic Gold Medal Winners stamps which sold very well at the time, but which nobody wants to buy now. (Look out for special offers soon at shop.norphil.co.uk )

@wt1 - US panes have to be sold complete because of the interlocking perforations, something that has never been done here - our self-adhesive stamps have perforations that look like normal stamps. And the terms of our contract with RM allow us to return up to 20% in value of our purchases p.a. if we over order.

End note: despite the opinions of traditional collectors on the state of the UK market and of stamp products and design in general, people continue to buy not only stamps but other 'collectables' which is why the postal authorities keep producing them. They just don't cater for the completist collector any more, but to niches.
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Posted 11/20/2013   3:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello norvic, welcome to Stamp Community!

Wonderful website you have.

Please have a gander around and staighten us out as you can with the Machins.
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Posted 12/08/2013   12:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add norvic to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As far as I can tell in my blundering around in this forum, there are 19 pages of discussion on 'let's talk about Machins' starting in 2010!

If there are specific questions unanswered, or for which you think more needs to be said, please give me the exact link, or at least the page number and I'll be pleased to have a gander.

But I can't look through 19 pages of various Machin questions intermingled with each other!

If there is another are which I have overlooked, perhaps you can point me in that direction.
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Posted 12/09/2013   12:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Perhaps joining ongoing discussions and lending us your expertise at a remove will help all of us to appreciate how interesting Machins can be to a collector?

Things here do wander off into side discussions all the time.
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