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What A Waste Of Paper.

 
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Posted 12/21/2013   09:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add wert to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi..Take a look at the margin on this stamp..What a waste of paper..eh..??..Does anyone out there know of a stamp with more waste of paper then this one..??


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Posted 12/21/2013   11:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sdtom to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It reminds me of a matted photo. What is the size of the stamp?
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Posted 12/21/2013   1:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Argentine stamps of the mid-20th Century are known for their large margins (I am only considering stamps in which ALL copies were deliberately made with large margins, i.e. not considering US margin jumbos).

Here is just one of many examples (unfortunately, not "well-centered"):



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Posted 12/21/2013   1:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Then, of course, there are stamps that are a TOTAL waste of paper...

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Posted 12/21/2013   4:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sdtom..the stamp size is 44mm X 33mm....this is not the largest stamp I have seen....but a good size.
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Posted 12/21/2013   5:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, the Hungarian stamp design itself is 35mmx26mm, so compare that to the paper dimensions measured by wert and we can see the margins are relatively oversized by a good percentage.
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Posted 12/21/2013   5:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Times of India Press in Bombay allowed some pretty generous margins for the later printings of Barwani:



(This setting dates from around 1938.)



(And this is a post-WWII setting, around 1947)

The printers of Poonch stamps tried to overcome the problem of waste by ruling the spaces for handstamping the stamps onto the sheets. However, things didn't always proceed as planned after the printer had indulged in a long lunch ...


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Posted 12/21/2013   10:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A long lunch....I would say more like a liquid lunch..haha
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Posted 12/22/2013   12:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
...25-martini lunch.

Thanks for posting those pics, tonymacg.
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Posted 12/22/2013   06:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Khj...what on earth is that "F" stamp you posted..is it real or just a joke..??
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Posted 12/22/2013   09:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sdtom to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Khj...what on earth is that "F" stamp you posted..is it real or just a joke..??


While I don't have it in my collection I remember seeing it.
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Posted 12/22/2013   10:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sdtom.....do you know if that "F" stamp is a real stamp....?
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Posted 12/22/2013   10:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sdtom to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes it is. The value of the stamp was 4 cents.
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Posted 12/22/2013   10:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The previously posted stamp is a real US stamp (Scott #2521) issued in 1991 and is arguably one of the ugliest stamps ever issued by the US, if not the ugliest. The stamp is not an "F" rate stamp, but rather a makeup rate stamp valued at 4-cents, which along with a 25-cent stamp would make up the then-first class postage rate of 29-cents.

Remember these stamps were all issued before "Forever" stamps were ever thought of. The "A" through "H" rate stamps represented an effort by the US Postal Service to have sufficient quantities of first class rate stamps on hand at all post offices before the actual postal rate increase amounts were known. When the new postal rates were announced, the lettered stamps were valued at the then first class postal rate.

Here's a "cheat sheet" created by the US Postal Service that identifies the value of all non denominated US Stamps. Note the top of page 3 which refers to the stamp in question:

http://pe.usps.com/cpim/ftp/manuals...00/Q604a.pdf
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Posted 12/22/2013   12:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the link wt1..apprecite it...it helps..bad enough that I have to struggle with Canadian stamps...I understand American stamps even less..haha
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Posted 12/22/2013   4:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for replying while I was out, wt1!

Yeah, its a real stamp. But still a total waste of paper. The many questions it raised and the confusing wording on the stamp (wt1 actually did a great job explaining) are why I consider it a TOTAL waste of paper (although I begrudgingly admit I did enjoy collecting the matched plate blocks).

The post office printed it for "practical reasons". They didn't know how much of a rate hike, but wanted to print the stamps well ahead of time. So they simply printed the explanation on the stamp and announced the value of the stamp once the amount of the rate hike was decided.
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