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Republik Maluku Selatan - What's The Story ???

 
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Posted 02/01/2014   6:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add mobilman44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi,
In one of the albums I bought there was a glassine envelope of some very colorful stamps with "Republik Maluku Selatan" on them. There is no country of this name listed, and the Linn's identifier says it is "not recognized".

What can you tell me about the situation?

Thanks,
Mobilman44

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Posted 02/01/2014   6:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mobilman44 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,
Looks like I'll reply to my own question.......... Apparently the stamps were issued by non-official sources and the governments of the lands went into exile, etc., etc.

I guess my question then comes down to......... what do you do with these stamps?

Thanks!
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Posted 02/01/2014   8:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add YeaPolska to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
They're unofficial, bogus, cinderellas, so maybe a separate section in your collection for these sorts of things.

Would fit right alongside this label https://www.stampcommunity.org/topi...36065#305777

As with the Albanian label the Maluku labels were very common & cheap in the 60's. I recall one approval crowd saying, yes, these were unofficial, but who knows what will happen, subtly implying that they may receive official status one day so NOW is the time to buy them. They were perf, imperf, various colour combinations, must of made a fortune off us gullible school boys
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Posted 02/02/2014   10:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bamra1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Firstly I will clarify the history, since although you have found it yourself other readers of this thread may not have. When Indonesia became Independent from the Netherlands in 1949 it was as a federation of Java, Sumatra, South Borneo, the Celebes, the Molukus, Papua (and several etcs). The South Molukus objected and the following year declared UDI.

They issued stamps, which were overprints on Indonesian stamps.These are very scarce.


(Please note I do not collect Indonesia so to illustrate this reply I have taken images from the Web.)

A tiny number of these stamps were used for postal purposes in the South Molukus. They are the Holy Grail of Molukus collectors.

Indonesia immediately sent in troops. The leadership of the Molukus who survived/escaped went into exile. There they issued stamps, as do most Governments in Exile. The point is partly to raise money and partly to raise awareness. They probably (most GiEs do) promised that when the Molukus became independent they would legitimise the stamps amd make them current tender. So YeaPolska's approval crowd saying, yes, these were unofficial, but who knows what will happen, subtly implying that they may receive official status one day so NOW is the time to buy them whilst being wildly over-optimistic, were not necessarily being dishonest. In Yorkshire they were of course more realistic; this is an approval booklet of South Molukus material - note the warning on the front:


These stamps include all the 'usual suspects' - McArthur/UN/UPU and various assorted beasts, which are common as muck. But the 'red map' issue, for example is rarely seen, and certainly not cheap:


The stamp issuing died out after a few years, but the unsold issues occasionally get dusted off and overprinted as a revival e.g.


Furthermore a few years ago when a Papuan Independence group wanted to issue similar propaganda stamps the Republic of the South Molukus in Exile (which still exists to this day, although they change their name periodically) gave them some of theirs to overprint.

None of these are common.

So to answer your question of what to do with these stamps - well, collect them! A full collection of the 'easy' ones, with just one example from each of the scarce sets would probably get you a decent prize in a Cinderella exhibition.

Or a collection of these could be contrasted with a collection of the issues put out by the Indonesian provisional government when they were fighting for independence from the Netherlands in the late 1940s.

Or start a collection of stamps issued by Governments in Exile around the world.

Just don't pay too much for them and remember that they will never appear in stamp catalogues. Unless they win, of course ....

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Posted 02/02/2014   11:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Climber Steve to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
One minor point; Papua was not originally part of Indonesia in 1949. It remained as the colony of Netherlands New Guinea until the early 1960s, when the Dutch decided they did not have the resources to fight off the incursions from the Indonesian military. There remains to this day a simmering anti-Indonesian movement in what is now sometimes called Papua.
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Posted 02/02/2014   12:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add qaman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just do like I do if you like them keep them but the above answers nailed it.
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Posted 02/03/2014   10:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Faken to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Funny to see this thread, I JUST had this same experience this weekend when I found some buried in a misc album. Did a double take and was thinking "what the deuce?!". Did some research and found out most of the above. You just never stop learning in this hobby, I love it...
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Posted 02/03/2014   1:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Maluku Selatan was also covered previously here:

https://goscf.com/t/31730#31730

https://goscf.com/t/3363#3363
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