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Rotary Press Waste Stamps

 
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Posted 02/18/2014   4:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add mphelan48 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
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I'm new to collecting because I have the opportunity to view a very maticulate collection of commemoratives from 1893 to 1980.In thic collection is the 2 cent harding nh.i have compared the ferf and gauged them.They are ferf 11.Itook 4 of each flat plate and 4 rotary press mint nh and compared through magnification the backs and the glue patterns.There is a difference in flat plate and rotary glue patterns.I also studied the ink and under close magnification the inks are different.The flat plate has a beaded effect and the rotary press is denser and without breaks that look like beading.Can you identify a rotary waste stamp by the back of the stamp.In other words this stamp is a perf 11 but was it made on a rotary press.Any thoughts on this would be greatly app.
ALWAYS YOUNG THANK YOU
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Posted 02/24/2014   11:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dianne Earl to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome mphelan48

I think if you post this in the proper topic you may get an answer. I'm afraid I do not know enough about US stamps to answer you.

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Posted 02/24/2014   4:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mphelan48 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
THANK YOU DIANE
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Posted 02/24/2014   4:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kevin504 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
the gum on a flat plate will be smooth....
the gum on a rotary plate would have ridges....
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Posted 02/24/2014   8:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Al E. Gator to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Flat plate stamps generally, though not necessarily always, will show some ink off-set from the next sheet being staked on top of the previous sheet before the ink has completely dried on that sheet. The ink off-set will be under the gum and can be from a few tiny specks/dots to larger ink off-setting depending upon how much wet ink was present on the sheet a second sheet was stacked on top of. Rotary press stamps will not show any off-set ink on the back. As implied, the rotary waste stamp was from rotary press printing.
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Posted 02/24/2014   9:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
These stamps are usually a combination of rotary press printed stamps especially their larger design size with the perforation 11 of flat plate stamps. Thus, if I were looking for Scott # 613, I would get a copy of both # 610 and # 612 since # 613 is like a combination of some aspects of both # 610 and # 612.
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Posted 02/24/2014   11:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add raymodj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I know they started adding the gum breakers shortly before the rotary Harding (612). Did all the 612s (and so the 613s) get breakers? There are no known mint 613s, but if there were... is that what the OP is asking?
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