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Scott 1461 Color Shift?

 
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Posted 04/28/2014   10:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Chewie to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I have run across a bunch of stamps in my collection that seem to have a red color shift on the olypic red circle on #1461. how common is this? seemingly fairly so as I have not found one yet that isn't shifted. I pulled two photos from ebay showing the difference of the stamp varieties in question.. I've also seen some shifted less so also.



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Posted 04/29/2014   11:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
On Chewie's stamps I do not see any "redshift". On the top stamp the yellow is shifted to the left and on the bottom stamp the black is a tad too high. On Kevin's stamp not really any color seems in the correct spot. Do perfect examples of this stamp exist?

Peter
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Posted 04/29/2014   7:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Chewie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow! that is an interesting shifted one. as for the ones I posted, I just pulled pics off ebay listings to illustrate my query. the main red is not shifted much but the red olympic circle in the lower photo is shifted down, which is illustrative of my personal ones. a "lazy" olympic ring as it were
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Don't forget to check the other stamps in that series. I just went through a stockbook of Scott C85 (11c Air Mail) stamps from that series and found similar (but different) color shifts:



Note the color shift in the yellow (red arrow) and green (purple arrow) portions of the skis. Also the black text is severely shifted off center (top to bottom).
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Posted 04/29/2014   9:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Chewie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
very nice, they must have had many problems with that issue...I wonder if any have warrented being cataloged
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Posted 04/29/2014   10:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Do perfect examples of this stamp exist?


Peter I agree with you there 100%.
Many of these seventies and eighties BEP photogravure printed stamps
as well as some Giori combined recess and offset from the sixties
had colour shifts throughout the print run.

Perfectly colour aligned and centered stamps are the exception
for some of these issues.


I wonder what grade PSE would give this example.






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Posted 05/02/2014   07:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kevin504 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I wonder what grade PSE would give this example

Stamp would not be graded.....it would be considered a error.
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Posted 09/04/2014   7:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ikeyPikey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The 'error' is in the design. Adjacent objects of solid color fairly beg to result in minor color shifts; the more adjacent, the more solid & contrasting the colors, the more that the slightest misalignment is amplified to ugly color mixes.

Creating a design for mass-high-speed-printing that requires perfect execution is amateurish.

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey
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These examples are all Freaks - kevin504's being a quite spectacular one. The only Error of this issue is "tagging omitted", which also occurs on the 8c denomination. There is a cylinder flaw at one position of the 6c, which created a broken red ring. The numerous freaks created on early runs of the Giori and Andreotti presses were primarily caused as BEP staff learned to run these new presses.
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This is an absolutely normal example of the "direction of printing" - the ink flow in ONE particular direction i.e back to the press - which can be found on ALL stamps printed in photogravure....
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