Denmark Stamps Identification Pls

I posted this on an old thread but don't see it so I will try a new thread. What is this and is it worth selling on ebay, value, price, scott number? Anything I dun known. I collect USA and sell the WW to buy more USA

Those, are not cinderellas, but normal stams. You should put you question on the "Pre -1940" section. But, bear in mind that Europeans d'ont use Scott. So, it would be hard to get the numbers. As for the vàlua, I would look at Delcampe site.

why would you think to say they are not Cinderellas, I never said they were?

Doesn't scott have worldwide catalogs in a set of six? There should be Scott numbers for me to use on USA ebay vs a European ebay site.

I was interested in catalog value not auction value.

Do you have a link for this pre 1940s section or do I look for it in search here or in Delcampe?

Is there not one person on this forum site that knows anything about Denmark stamps that can provide even the basics for this type of stamp?

If you don't think they're cinderellas, why did you ask for the information on the cinderellas section? Anyway, they're Danish stamps from 1851-1854, "fire" stands for 4 and "RBS" for "rigsbankskilling" (cent. of Danish. crown).
As I said before, here in Europe don't use Scott, but the Yvert et Tellier catalog number is 2a or 2b. No idea of current cat. value.
Just to end, some politness won't do any damage to you...

I did not know this was posted in the Cinderella section- if so it was posted in the wrong area, however "I" never assumed they were Cinderellas nor did anything I wrote indicate I thought so or asked if they were. That is all I was saying.

I do not believe I said anything rude only asked questions and as we know there are no dumb questions, right? or are there, my apologies if you were/are offended. Thank you so much for your very helpful and informative information.

I am not in Europe so do not need other numbering but am now "if it is not clear" that if there are Scott numbers for these stamps which surely should be then what might they be? Most auctions on ebay UNITED STATES of AMERICA use or are familiar with "SCOTT" and their numbering system, and those and only those numbers are the ones I am asking for if someone would be so kind, thanking so so much in advance if they do have the Scott Catalogs for world wide stamps which I do not have.

Lastly this series of stamps has more then one type of stamp I found 1851,1852,1853,1854 and 1854-1857 with dotted background some have wavy line background. colors brown,chocolate brn,reddish brn,blackish brn,dark reddish brn,yellowish brn, greyish brn, olive brn, chestnut brn, hazel brn. I found this online catalog http://www.stampworld.com/stamps/Denmark/ but it is not scott numbers and I am not familiar with these stamps to make a determination which ones I have and as you know ebay buyers require accurate information or they will ask for a refund if the item they receive is not as advertised so I am TRYING to get as accurate information as I can and if someone does have accurate info. it would be so very appreciated and I humbly ask for information but only if it is not a bother to anyone as I do not wish to be abrasive, rude or impolite in any way shape or form especially when it is I asking for information from such helpful and delightful, insightful and knowledge base as here. respectfully larrybruce...

These are the 4RBS - the first stamp from Denmark: No.: 1.
For some obscene reason Scott choose to number them 2...

Anyway, various brown shades exist, depending on what catalog you use. The Danish AFA catalog has the most listed.

Scott is a mediocre choice for these stamps.

That is useful and so kind thank you so much and do they list a catalog price in either of these catalogs for Denmark 1 or Scott 2 "USED"? I have listed above the different shades from the online catalog may I have prices please? Thank you for your input and going through any trouble responding it will give me a base in which to list these with a percentage of catalog. Cheers and thank you so very much again in advance such knowledgeable and friendly people on this forum always so so helpful. I do prefer "SCOTT" number prices but if they are not available I will understand the opinions and far better wisdom then my own listed here in.

Larry, I used to collect Denmark way long time ago, and the stamps you show are very difficult to correctly identify ( mostly because of the color differences ). They are indeed the first issue of Denmark and show King Frederick VII. So far it is easy. Catalog value is another story. If I remember well there are quite a few varieties of these.
I do not know where you live, but sometimes larger librairies have Scott catalogs for your use.
If you try to find this stamp on ebay use Denmark #2 (?). If you use Delcampe use Denmmark #1. If you are an APS member you can sometimes find them in their store. They should list for about $4.00 and up, but my Danish is not very good!

Peter

In Scott they are all lumped in to Scott #2. It is your only choice for this combination of design and denomination.

The first printing was done with a two-step process using a separate copper plate for the burelage, and that warrants a variety number for Scott's editors (2a); one color variant gets its own number, as well, (2b) yellow brown. With magnification, you can easily see the raised lines in the first printing. Subsequent printings are "flat."

So as far as Scott is concerned, everything has to fit into one of three boxes.

Scott also mentions that full margins are 1mm. Scott doesn't mention that forgeries are common, or that some forgeries include a watermark.

Catalogue value is not very relevant to early Denmark, which typically sells at a significant discount from CV, unless it is a very nice piece.

If I were in your boat, I'd start them at $5, be honest about knowing nothing more than Scott would seem to say "#2", and see where they go. And use much larger scans, which would give a buyer a fighting chance at spotting something. Hopefully, two buyers.

My two cents.

Original poster (OP): if you are still interested in the information, please advise.

By the way, the colors in the scan are off, thus for stamps for which color is the key to exact identification, that is a problem.

As for Denmark's first stamp, only Scott #2a (engraved burelage) qualifies as Denmark's first stamp. The Scott #2 and #2b (colors) are issued a bit later after Scott #1a.

OP: You may not have thought your response was rude, but I when I first read it, it was also my reaction that it was a bit rude. People are here to help, not to serve. This is where the written word does not well convey intent; we could not "see you" and thus could not realize from non-written cues that you were not trying to be rude. The category of the posting (which I understand you did not realize was in the Cinderella category) *does* reasonably suggest to users that you think they are Cinderellas (which I understand you did not). So, cut the "helpers" some slack. It was all just a series of mistakes and misunderstandings.

You say you are in the U.S. The "helpers" provided the Scott numbers. If you are a stamp person, you should somehow have access to Scott Catalogs -- most public libraries will have a recent edition. If you don't have that level of information available to you, then it suggests that maybe you should not be trying to sell them on ebay because since you don't know much about them, potential buyers won't either. The blind leading the blind, etc. Oh, its ebay, so that's normal. :-)

However, the pictures need to be better to determine if the stamp on the left AND the third stamp are #2 early uses (unlikely) with dumb cancel, or if they are #2a (likely). The second stamp is a #2. The fourth stamp is probably a #2, but an aspect of the appearance (need better image) suggests that it just might be a late use of #2a with numeral cancel (unlikely, but worth more). The color of the image is very wrong for all four stamps. Though, none of them are #2b (which contains all the other colors you listed).

My 2014 Scott catalogue lists #2 used at $40