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Posted 11/03/2014   08:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add kevin504 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Poll Question:
As a buyer...
I prefer....

*** Edited by Staff to remove YELLING. ***

Choices:
Free shipping
Shipping price is calculated into my bid
Major factor in cost
Dont matter, I want the item
Does it matter if item starts @ 99c
Other

(Anonymous Vote)
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Posted 11/03/2014   09:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Battlestamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I always prefer shipping at exact rates as charged by the post office. I think that's fair.
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Posted 11/03/2014   09:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CanadaStamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is not "shipping." It is shipping and handling. And I charge for both.
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Posted 11/03/2014   09:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Actually it should be called shipping, handling, and materials. Some buyers seem to think someone gives me supplies for free.
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Posted 11/03/2014   10:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Battlestamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I usually equate shipping with the postage placed on the envelope or parcel. I don't charge for handling nor any materials used in shipping.
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Posted 11/03/2014   11:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ecmorgan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Since the poll asked my view "as a buyer" obviously I prefer free shipping.

As a seller, I charge for postage, handling and supplies.
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Posted 11/03/2014   11:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If the auction starts at .99˘ then I could care less. It all comes down to total purchase price which is obviously item + shipping = total.
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Posted 11/03/2014   12:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Al E. Gator to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"Shipping" (which I suppose covers postage, supplies, time and energy etc.) is relevant to the final cost of the item being shipped. I don't usually purchase high-end items, therefore when there is an item(s) that I may get for under $20.00, I sometimes avoid bidding on the item(s) if the shipping is over $1.00, knowing that I'll be receiving it in an regular envelope with standard .49 postage. However, I will and have accepted higher shipping fees on some item(s) that sell in the range stated that I really must have, like a nice W/F #500 on cover I picked up for under #10.00, with a bit higher shipping cost. So, to me, its relevant to the cost of the item and what if any special postage is required, but with exception as to desirability.
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Posted 11/03/2014   1:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jarnick to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Don't forget that e Bay also charges the seller their commission on the shipping charge.
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Posted 11/03/2014   2:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Don't forget that e Bay also charges the seller their commission on the shipping charge.


Well, in their defense, they only did that because of the shysters that charged high shipping to get around paying fees.

Similar to how Paypal Gift will eventually go away because of all the people that cheat the system that are too cheap to pay the 3%.
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Posted 11/03/2014   3:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CanadaStamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
>>>>>Well, in their defense, they only did that because of the shysters that charged high shipping to get around paying fees.

With respect. I don't see how you could know how / why they made that decision. It was evident to me at the time that it was just a cash grab - inevitable in that they control sales and the bank. It's a classic monopoly and they are extorting every last penny from sellers.
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Posted 11/03/2014   4:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add blcjr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is not my intention to offend anyone with what follows. I am simply offering my personal opinion. As I buyer (with more than a thousand ebay purchases over the past decade or so) when I see a s/h charge of $2 on items that sell for as little as a dollar, and knowing what first class mail costs (or even allowing for another $0.21 for non machinable), I presume that the seller is trying to make a "little profit" in the s/h charge. I put "little profit" in quotation marks for two reasons. Even assuming that the seller is trying to recover a bit for the time spent in preparing the mailing, it cannot be a lot (hence "little") and covering the cost of one's time is not really "profit." But the latter is something like a "wage" and some buyers don't really like the notion of paying for that in the s/h charge.

I'm one of them. If you are selling on ebay to cover the cost of your time, it ought to be factored into your selling price, not your s/h cost. When I check out at WalMart, and the clerk puts the products in a bag, I'd balk at a separate charge for that. That service is just a part of the cost of doing business. And even if only part time, if you are selling stamps or covers on ebay, I really think you should expect to cover the cost of the time you spend doing that in the selling price, not the shipping charge.

Now I imagine that from a seller's perspective, many may think of the selling price as the price for the item per se. But the OP asked for buyer perspectives, and that's what I'm presenting. But as a buyer, when I try to analogize buying on ebay to other common retail purchases, I do not find many business trying to cover labor costs through a "handling charge." And the selling price of retail items always hopes to cover more than just the cost of the item itself. I'm never under the illusion that the selling price is simply the "cost of goods." It covers the cost of goods plus other costs of doing business, including the business owner's time.

So I look askance at a stamp or a cover being sold with a $2 (or more) "shipping cost." All the time I see the same, or similar items, being sold by one dealer at (say), $1.99 starting bid plus $1 shipping, and another for $0.99 starting bid and $2.00 shipping. From a buyer's perspective, these are not the same! One looks like it is offering a reasonable "shipping cost," and the other looks like a "loss leader" that seeks to make up the "loss" in the "shipping cost." If I have have a choice, I'm going to chose the former every time.

But then that is a buyer's perspective, for what it is worth.

Then as to the question about a flat mailer and tracking, as a buyer I think for the typical item in the $1-$20 range, it is a waste of money. Maybe even a waste at $40. Yes, for big ticket items, tracking, and even more importantly, insurance, is something I'll willingly pay for. But these are reasonably predictable prices and the cost of such, even when factored into the "shipping and handling" charge, should be explained to the buyer up front so that they know what they are paying for, and what they are getting.

I have a few "favorite" buyers that I will buy from who charge $2-$3 bucks shipping on items costing just $10 or less because they have made the decision to chase the "top seller" rating and that adds substantially to their cost of doing business. They are good about combining shipments, and I know they are just trying to cover their costs. I blame ebay, not them. I buy from them because they have inventory at prices I don't often find elsewhere. But I still think it is a waste of my money to have to pay for this.

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Posted 11/03/2014   7:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add graphis to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
i am amazed to see some shipping charges to Canada for a single stamp to exceed $10.00 regardless of the value of the stamp.
One of the reasons I prefer to shop at BidStart... I don't get gouged on shipping.
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Posted 11/03/2014   8:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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One of the reasons I prefer to shop at BidStart... I don't get gouged on shipping.


Who cares what the shipping is, it's only an arbitrary price. If a Stamp or group of stamps is worth $40, who cares if the price is $30 + $10 shipping or $35 + $5 shipping.
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Posted 11/03/2014   8:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kevin504 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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If you are selling on ebay to cover the cost of your time, it ought to be factored into your selling price

How can you put costs into items that start@99c??
You have no control over the final selling price.
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Posted 11/03/2014   8:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kevin504 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Then as to the question about a flat mailer and tracking, as a buyer I think for the typical item in the $1-$20 range, it is a waste of money


What if you dont receive your item????
You gonna want a refund....right.

Is that the sellers fault your item did not arrive???
Without tracking all ebay sellers are "in the wrong"
and the buyers money will be refunded
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