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Posted 11/05/2014   09:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add ikeyPikey to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Point of order!

At https://goscf.com/t/40390#40390 rustyc has posted a beautiful souvenir sheet from Botswana.

It seems to me that the once-distinct categories of 'mini-sheet' and 'souvenir sheet' are beginning to overlap.

Historically, it seems to me, a souvenir sheet was issued for a chronologically distinct event; for example, something ending in '-PEX'.

Mini-sheets, it seems to me, were simply sheets that held fewer stamps than 'usual' sheets; for US collectors, for the longest time, this meant 50 commemoratives or 100 definitives.

These days, it seems to me, 'souvenir' sheet has come to mean 'mini-sheet with a decorative border'.

Q/ As these categories have grown, should catalogs distinguish (as in 'use different numbering sequences') between souvenir sheets & mini-sheets? (Not Stamp X in souvenir sheet form, but the sheets themselves, get a catalog number.)

Q/ Should the Botswana item (above) be described as a souvenir sheet, mini-sheet, or some 3rd/new term?

Q/ Is there anyone else willing to admit that, at some point in their lives, they thought that Botswana was just an easier way of writing/saying Bophuthatswana? (I once lived under the footprint of the satellite that broadcast BOP TV; it was a treat, especially the localized KFC & laundry detergent ads.)

Cheers,

/s/ ikeypikey
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Posted 11/05/2014   10:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kirks to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting... just yesterday, I was catching up on back issues of Linn's. One of the articles was about defining these overlapping terms:

http://www.linns.com/howto/refreshe...rcourse.aspx

Kirk

P.S. a point of order is a statement; you're asking questions, so that would be a point of information (RONR, 11th edition, pg 294).
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Posted 11/05/2014   10:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Also consider that the USPS references to a "souvenir sheet" differs -- sometimes quite substantially -- from a collector's view of a "souvenir sheet". It seems the USPS is applying the term "souvenir sheet" to their marketing schemes. For example, if the USPS requires you to buy a full pane of stamps they refer to it as a "souvenir sheet". Examples are Chinese New Year, Batman, War of 1812 series, etc.
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Posted 11/05/2014   10:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rustyc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
iKeyPikey, I had doubts about the accuracy of the term I used right after I posted the Botswana ____ sheet. In reviewing the post, I see that at one point I called it simply "souvenir," although -- full disclosure -- that was actually a typo.
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Posted 11/06/2014   10:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Personally I have a tendency to follow the North American conbention of naming the term for the souple-three stamps surrounded by a larger extra pictured marging, such as the mentioned Botswana sheet as a souvenir sheet.

But, in the rest of the world, I have noticed on ebay and Delcampe, the tendency leans towards the use of the term Minature Sheet or Mini Sheet or MS or M/S or M.S. .


I would like to see a regularity for the naming of such items as you mention though. This would help buying, searching on auction sites, Google, and selling items around the world also.
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Posted 11/07/2014   02:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 65170 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Puzzler, terminology in our hobby is littered with wrong word usage. For example, many collectors and, indeed, dealers, seem unable to differentiate between a colour trial, proof and an essay, call letterpress typography, the list is endless. I too waste much time searching for items that are often there but mis-described, so are probably missed by me.

As for MS and SS items, I tend to define them based on the number of different stamps the item has - up to 6 stamps it's a MS, 7-12 a SS, above 12 a counter sheet. But then there are the sheetlets of same design definitives with between 10 (Germany) and 25 (UK) stamps.

So I am probably adding to the confusion that I am complaining about! GLENN
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