Austrailian Overwrite

1912

Fireman451, Is there a question here? By the way, those are called overprints, and that is a pretty set!

Peter

Hey ! Yes are over prints rare ?

Hello Fireman451, welcome!

Those do look nice together, the green and the pink. The overprints are collected by some especially but I don;t have their pricing available.

On cover (envelope) they would be worth more as original. Are they on cover? What's the shadow showing next to the Queen Victoria's?

Covers are priced by overall look so the names and condition are important, like a car for example.

Puzzler...I dont think it is a shadow but extra paper on the end of the stamp and maybe an alignment strip in the same colour ink..??

Arrows point to the continuation of perorations.

Wert, thank you, , I think that is it.
My eyes are fooling me, getting tired.

SG lists the issue date for the overprints at June 29, and the cancel looks to be July 12. The stamps themselves are common.

Some might wonder about stamps from two different colonies/states on one cover, but that's how they rolled...I think the individual states' stamps were valid across Australia until 1966.

Someone who knows more than me about Australia will correct that if I'm wrong...

Yes it is stamp paper attached to the stamps with purple stripe. Thanks everyone

The stripe is referred to as a marginal rule. It was there to help protect the adjacent stamp from the pressures of the printing process.

They are neat, but when you see one on a cover, you might wonder if the cover was created by a stamp collector. In this case, the envelope was mailed to a stamp publication, which is another tipoff.

Some cover collectors try to avoid covers that were created artificially. When you see someone referring to a cover as "philatelic" they usually don't mean it in a nice way. To each their own, though. Collect what you like.

(I don't actively collect covers, so I don't have a horse in this race. Sometimes it can be fun to tease a cover collector by opining that their prize discovery looks a little philatelic. Unless it does, in which case it might hit too close to home.)

dont think it was created artificially the cancel goes all the way through the cover and three stamps

I am recently collecting covers as well as stamps and stamps on piece with cancels. The term philatelic is used to denote an item philatelically contrived so can mean not real in a sense.

However, everyone enjoys a good looking piece of display art or philatelic contrivance I think. Dresses up the collection, so to speak. I like a good one.

It can also mean really nice cancel and stamp placement I think. Extr postage paid or extra art can look to be non-postal, even though it has gone through the mails, but if the stamp sets or combination of stamps for their subject matter or colours or even denominations (example, all small definitives) look pleasing, the extra effort and money is considered worthwhile.

I do like a good cover with propper historically correct postage paid of course, especially from a romantic or exotic place. Sometimes any place but home can seem romantic and axotically far away.

It's all good, as the saying goes.

The cover is not faked. Someone please give me proof that this cover is fake . Ill take better pic

Please rest easy Fireman451 that no one at all is saying that the cover is fake or faked or anything of the sort.

'Philatelic contrivance' simply means that some covers, somewhere in the world, not yours, are actually made to look prettier and more collector ready than any real ones are.

Yours was discussed and looks OK to me, real. It does have stamps from twp states miles apart on it, but that is OK, that is real.

It is just neat and noteworthy. Looks good.

It is probably like a Canada cover with a Newfoundland stamp on it after 1949, two separate countries nefore 1949, but after allowed by law, even today. (I did it once, thought it was neat.

I have no reason to believe your cover is faked. It has a very typical Sydney roller cancel.

Thanks for sharing it.

Thank you everyone for your help . I misread above I guess . Thank you

Fireman,

Would you please provide a scan of both the full front and back of the cover?

Australia moved from separate colonies to a Federal unit on Jan 1, 1901. At that time, each state operated its own postal authority. Stamps from each sate were only valid within that state and this continued until 13 October 1910 when "the stamps of each State were interchangeable" (Kellow, Stamps of Victoria, pp284).

Kellow confirms the issue date as June 29, 1912 with 1,870,080 stamps issued to stock.

The stamp was heavily speculated upon at the time and large mint multiples exist.

This cover, assuming the prepaid postage was correct, used within two weeks of issue would negate any contrivance on the part of the sender. That is why I have asked for the full scan of front and back.