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Posted 12/03/2014   11:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Timm to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
If you have classic stamp forgeries... please post them here for the world to see.

Thank you
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Posted 12/03/2014   11:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


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Posted 12/04/2014   12:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Grandpa was stationed there in the 30's, so Grandma wandered about. I don't know whether she thought these were real or not ... but they're not.

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Posted 12/04/2014   01:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ClassicalStamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have more than one thousand on my website with more added every week. Feel free to check it out :-)

http://stampforgeries.com/
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Posted 12/05/2014   8:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hank44 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Classical Stamps, thank you for the link. As a newcomer to the hobby, it is interesting to see the side by side comparisons. I never really thought much about stamp forgeries until now.
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Posted 12/05/2014   9:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Lubeck



Bolivia



US Confederate postmasters provisional, Memphis Tenn.



Sicily

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Posted 12/08/2014   10:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add priatel to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@ClassicalStamps

In your site, you didn't have SWITZERLAND ??
But you have put in your header the picture of the Dove of Bale !?

That is to say that even your header is a fake, isn't it ?
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Posted 12/09/2014   02:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ClassicalStamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
priatel,

You will find the Basel Dove under 'B' (Basel)

But you're right, Switzerland is not finished / online yet.
I will get to it eventually. My goal is to cover all countries.
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Posted 12/09/2014   1:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TheArtfulHinger to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Don't know if this is considered classic, but here is Saar B15. Peter Winter forgery. Very, very good and the only "easy" way to tell it's a forgery is the word "faux" by the red arrow, which could easily be overlooked. It can also be removed.



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Posted 01/10/2015   01:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dwaters to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply



Argentina--CV = 7000 if real
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Posted 01/10/2015   4:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nl1947 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Argentina--CV = 7000 if real


This stamp is worth ~ $7000 unused if the accent is missing on the U

I believe there are only 2 examples of the unused - a single with gum & a block without.

Removing the accent would be simple for a forger.

I believe the actual counterfeits (there are many) were printed by Lange an employee of the printers and you can easily tell them by the narrow C in centavo. The 5c variety requires other verifications
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Posted 01/10/2015   5:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nl1947 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In looking further at the stamp from Argentina.

It is not a Type 1 forgery as there are 71 pearls (hope I counted right) the real one has 71 or 78. The forgery is 81.
Also the hands holding the pole are just 2 parallel lines in front of the pole.

The type 2 forgery the pole hands are in the back, there are no rays outside the inner circle & the circle tends to be uneven.

That said, it is probably a reprint.?
Forgeries can be fascinating. It's been my interest for awhile. The countries I collected have enough to keep you busy a long time.
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Posted 01/10/2015   5:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nl1947 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Last comment on those shown - other matters to attend to for now
The 500c from Bolivia - genuine worth maybe $3000
The forgery seen here was just plain BAD.
The real one has very nice detail.
You can especially see it in the Quinhentos Centavos how uneven & raggedy the letters are
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Posted 01/10/2015   6:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The so-called Missing Die forgeries of the Circulars of Jammu & Kashmir are ubiquitous - well, a lot more common than the genuine stamps

They were supplied from the Jammu & Kashmir Post Office with supplies of genuine types, so were for some time thought to be 'missing' dies. Their true nature was revealed some time after they appeared and began infiltrating collections. It appears crooked officials of the State Post Office saw a way of supplementing their incomes by printing imitations of the genuine stamps, and inserting them into the official supplies.

Here are some examples of the Missing Dies and genuine stamps:

First the ˝ Anna type:



The Missing Die is on the left. The two simplest diagnostics are that the leftmost line in the central circle touches the frame of the circle, and the bottom of the letter shaped a little like a '3' immediately above it is curved around to the left, and touches the letter next to it.

The 1 Anna type:



Here, the Missing Die is on the right. The simplest test is to draw a line from the upright line in the central circle. In the genuine types, the line passes between the two letters above it; in the Missing Dies, it points directly at one letter.

The 4 Annas type:



The Missing Die is back on the left hand side. The test is the same as for the 1 Anna value. In the genuine types, the line passes between the letters; in the Missing Die, the line passes straight through a letter.

The Missing Dies aren't the only forgeries of these stamps - just probably the most common. There are also reprints (sometimes quite hard to pick) and 'non-postal' types, which while apparently genuine, never actually saw postal service, and were simply post office experiments

If that hasn't frightened you away from these fascinating stamps, I can heartily recommend them as a study
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Posted 01/10/2015   8:19 pm  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hart L. Pierce counterfeit of U.S. Scott R1c. Not a philatelic forgery (the real stamp catalogs less than $1), but rather one created to defraud the government. They usually sell for $250-500.

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Posted 01/10/2015   9:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
recently found 1887 North Borneo #36. The real thing is perf 14, forgeries, such as this, are perf 11.5.

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