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Hi guys...take a look at these two Newfoundland Scott #27's...I cant believe that the post office didnt caught this terrible forgery back then and do some thing about it..Look at the picture below and tell me even a blind man can tell the difference....? 
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Hi Wert, Are you sure the cancelation is genuine? A lot of the forgeries were done to sell to collectors and were not used for actual postage. The cancelations were added to help pass them off as genuine used examples. |
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Well, it is easy to see at such magnification, but probably not nearly as clear at normal size?
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If the forgery was actually used on outgoing mail, it may have passed through canceling because it is close, and in a busy office, did the postal clerk really look at the stamp or did they just cancel it and move on to the next? I wonder how many forgerys were caught at the canceling desk? I would think that most forgeries were identified by collectors. Does anyone really know? |
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Quote: Are you sure the cancelation is genuine? Not to sure Mike...?? Oh Peter, it is sooo clear at normal size. Robert |
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| Edited by wert - 12/16/2014 12:20 pm |
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Many of Spiro's 'works' of Queen Victoria are also horrible. Let's just say they doesn't make her prettier  |
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Quote: Many of Spiro's 'works' of Queen Victoria are also horrible But..He is getting better..look at this one.  |
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Nice posting and topic.
One aspect to remember is that in this era, there were not a lot of publications available with the actual photo to compare to so forgeries took advantage of that. Without modern printing presses, photocopying or in some areas even cameras--there was simply no way for a laymen to do a side by side comparison. (Let alone at the micro level above). Even more so if the post office had issued all the stamps and had run out of them, so one could not walk into a post office in say Harbor Grace and ask to see a real 10 cent stamp. So it was easy picking to peddle this and I could be wrong but I believe Spiro even produced fake looking post office sheets to dupe suckers into comparing to an "official" copy when buying his forgeries--so you would compare the actual fake stamp he was peddling to a piece of paper that had grainy black and white image of the same stamp. I may not be correct that this was Spiro, but I recall reading this in history of Newfoundland forgeries.
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Nice fakes wert. That Newfie Prince Albert (the genuine one) is one of my fave Newfoundland stamps. A wonderful portrait of the gent. Of course you want terrible forgeries, check some CSA fakes sometime. A wonder anyone was fooled (and many still are!). Here's an example (sorry I just realized this is a Canadian thread, but you've already got me going so...) of a CSA #11  and an example of the same design executed, I think, by Samuel Upham (yet to be proven).  These images have been shown here before. |
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| Edited by jamesw - 12/18/2014 10:09 pm |
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This stamp was issued by Bolivia in 1868 (Scott 14). Quinientos centavos = Five hundred cents  This is a forgery :  But the forger made a very silly mistake : he wrote "QUINHENTOS" in Portuguese instead of "QUINIENTOS" in Spanish. He tried to catch a stamp collector and shot himself in the foot |
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Came across a sheet of these. Nothing on them to indicate who printed them. Probably too embarrassed to claim the credit.   Searching online I found someone trying to sell a similar sheet. I'm wondering if these things may have once been handed out as souvenir items somewhere. They would never pass as the real thing. |
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Quote: Came across a sheet of these. Nothing on them to indicate who printed them. Probably too embarrassed to claim the credit.
Tom, these cinderellas abound, full sheets etc. |
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It would be an insult to forgers everywhere to call these forgeries. Cinderellas is a much better term for them. I can't imagine they were ever meant to be considered genuine. |
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I would, but as of the last month I have gutted every floor and kitchen, all my stamps are in bins in the basement..Soon as I get settled, I will post the stamp and have approx. 7-8 more Newfoundland forgeries.
Robert
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