Canada Small Queen Identification Table: Position Dots

For the specialist out there, I am a bit puzzled by the terminology used by the Unitrade catalog. The identification Table at the end of the small queen section shows that for the Montreal 1888-1889 column, position dots are "continued" for the 1, 2, 3 and 5 cents. Can anyone explains what it means? Any idea as to where to look for the position dots on these?

I was wondering that myself Gilles le timbre..Could it mean they continued the same dot position going forward..??
I hope some one can explain..I have a small queen book I bought, and maybe I will see if there is anything in there about it.
Or maybe Garfield P who wrote it..Maybe he could answer your question.

P.S. - Happy New Year Gilles le timbre

Thanks Wert. And a Happy New Year to you and all stamp collectors on the Forum.

Happy New Year to everyone and I hope that you all had a great Christmas.

All the best for 2015

Chimo

Bujutsu

Hello all. Best wishes for a Happy New Year.

The chart to which you refer is my creation which I am now finding is in need of revision. I have spent the Holiday season working on a new table that, unfortunately, won't be available until the next edition of Unitrade in 2016.

The main issue is that catalogues have a tendency to round perforation values to the most convenient whole number or simple fraction. I have had the good fortune of being able to use the VSC6000 at the Greene Foundation for measurement and it is accurate to the nearest 100th of a millimeter. I am, therefore, reworking values to the new standards of accuracy and will publish my findings sometime in the next couple of months.

With respect to the position dots on the late Montreal printings, they can be found at the 3 or 9 o'clock positions on the frame and can be seen in the attached photo



GJP

Thank you gportch for the explanation...lots of luck with your new chartering.

Just getting away from the subject for a minute..A new friend I have made, Jim Watt is plating the 12P stamp..That is exciting to..

Happy New Year Garfield.

Thanks GPortch. I look forward with a lot of interest your upcoming table revision. I found the most difficult aspect in small queen identification is the perforation difference between Kiusalas 65 and 66. Sometimes, the position dots give you a clue, but I keep finding some 6c that look like 65 x 65, and they have position dots on lower left corner (either 1 or 3 misaligned pos. dots. Their color is closer to Chocolate Brown, but the table list them as 43, while the dots belong to 39...I also found similar difficulties with the 41 (3c) vs 37 and the late Montreal and late Ottawa printings of the 1c (66 x 64, vs 65 x 65). I am sure there are different strategies that can be used to classify the small queens, and I have adopted the position dot as a primary criteria, next I check perforations, and lastly, the colour. Any insight you can provide on my initial question above (what does "continued" means under the Montreal 1888-89?)

GJP,is there any pattern to which stamps in the sheet have the dots at 3 o'clock or 9 o'clock? I know in most cases the circular frame hides the dots. I have gone through about 50 obvious late printings and have only found a few 3 o'clock dots, but no 9 o'clock dots.

Gilles le timbre are you the philatelist from St=Hyacinthe?

Hutin, I am from the Ottawa area/ je suis de la region d'Ottawa. This forum is one of the best one for Canadian Philatelists.

BeeSee, I don't have many of the 9 o'clock dots. For some reason they are tough to find and are often hidden within the frame. I have no ideas with respect to the numbers on each side of the stamp. I have also found the occasional horizontal guide line at the middle of the stamp.

GJP

Et pour la philatélie canadienne.

Hey...I am half French, can I join in..??..haha

Ok I agree is the best but unfortunately I am unable to send any pictures of my collection; I have some nice stamps from Canada the rarest is maybe my #37D 12.5x12.5

gportch...(or anyone else if interested)..I have over 100 of the 3cent type..maybe I could go through them to see what percentage is 3 and 9 o'clock..??
Robert

Is this a 9 o'clock dot.
Stamp owned by BeeSee from:https://goscf.com/t/6683&SearchTerms=small,queen



Is this a 3 o'clock dot between the inner and outer frame lines of the medallion on this stamp owned by jhlovell?
https://goscf.com/t/14474&SearchTerms=small,queen