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What Do You Thinks Guys - Plate Scratch..?

 
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Posted 01/26/2015   4:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add wert to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi guys/girls...Does this Mint NFLD Scott # 11 look like a plate scratch..?
Or just a dirty roller..?
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Posted 01/26/2015   8:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wert, I answered this thread earlier but I guess I forgot to push the button.
I think that these old Newfoundland stamps are beauties; those engraved ones are pure eyecandy!
I collect the U.S. Transportation Series, a set of about 80 coil stamps that are engraved. Some of the earlier ones, printed on the older Cottrell presses, show this same kind of lines. Some of these are "doctor blades", caused by a lack of wiping ink from some rollers. But I think they always run horizontal, or at least in the printing's direction.
The lines you show do indeed look like a scratch on the plate, maybe caused by an etching tool.
I am also somewhat surprised that you did not ask about the line in the letter "A"!

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Posted 01/26/2015   9:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I am also somewhat surprised that you did not ask about the line in the letter "A"!

Or the lack of lines Peter..look at the "N" in Nova.
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Posted 01/27/2015   07:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Newby Stamper to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And the E in eight and S in cents. Also are the lines not suppose to be in the plume areas?
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Posted 01/27/2015   08:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add watermark to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wert, The lines in upper right corner may be a plate scratch. All the other marks on this stamp are normal to the issue. attached are detail images of a normal stamp.

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Posted 01/27/2015   10:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ya...must be a plate...thanks for your input guys.
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Posted 01/27/2015   11:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Scottamer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi wert,
Looks like a plate scratch to me unless the stamp was just touched with a straight edge of something inked at the printer.

Obviously you had your Newfie obsession going when you identified this as "NFLD Scott #11" when it is clearly a Nova Scotia #11.

I do not collect the provinces but I must say that this Nova Scotia issue form the 1860s is quite lovely and surprisingly affordable for such old material. I always wonder why these are always so closely perforated and cut so as to remove part of the designs. However, on looking at a few multiples online I see that the leaves/flowers at the bottom of the design do actually overlap each other so as to create one continuous horizontal strip. If this was not an accident of plating the stamps too close together, then this certainly must have been quite innovative for the time.

If watermark could show us a bit more of his multiple piece, I think it would be very interesting. Seeing three or more of these in a row really lets a viewer appreciate how the design looks continuous as the leaves/flowers seem to meet at the bottom.
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Posted 01/27/2015   12:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Scottamer...Sorry about that "NFLD'..'Nova Scotia' thing...too many things on my mind at once..
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Scottamer, Your wish is my command. This is from a nice left corner block of 12 (image too large to load here) that has a misplaced entry I will try to show here.

Note imprint below positions 92 (right stamp) and 93 (left stamp). There is a misplaced entry between these two stamps.



Detail of the misplaced entry which is a broken arc starting near the top arrow and curving outward almost touching the outer frame line of position 93 and curving back in until touching the letters EN of CENTS.



A little hard to see here but quite striking on the stamp itself.
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