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Posted 01/28/2015   09:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Damian to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi,

Can anyone help me with a few perfins I found at an stamp-gathering? Can't find them on the Internet, not even on the Perfinsociety.
Any help appreciated!






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Posted 01/28/2015   09:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Damian to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
They read H.M &Co?
PL Ld (London)
G (Sheffield)
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Posted 01/28/2015   1:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scotzm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Many, many perfins are hard to identify. Thousands of companies, societies etc had their stamps done and there is no "master list". Basically you need to hunt around to find a similar one to aid identification. Occasionally you get them identified from online sources... some are listed on SCF so look around. Some perfins were only done by companies etc on specific stamp values, during certain periods (some companies did not survive or were taken over so their perfins do not exist past a certain date). Your George V twopence halfpenny stamp (which can be improved by floating off the backing) may hold a clue in that the postmark is SHEFFIELD so, for instance you could look for a company from there that used "G" perfins.
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Posted 01/28/2015   8:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PoStat4evR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
First of all, there is Great Britain catalog. There are actually 2 of them. The first is the old Tomkins Catalog (issued 1993), and the brand new (very large) Catalof which has one more letter in a few months and it will be complete. It is NOT inexpensive however.
The patterns you have shown are:
HM/Co has four possibilities. Need MM measurements to positively ID this. Measure from center of bottom hole to center of top hole on all letters.
PL/Ld = PAwson & Leafs Ltd., London
G = J G Graves, Sheffield

Hope this helps.
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Posted 01/29/2015   02:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Damian to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks you both! And PoStat4evR: I'll measure it up this evening. Hopefully you are willing to help me once more.

And the catalogue, yes you're right: that would be helpful, were it not that I only have a few tens of them.

Greetings from Holland!
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Posted 01/29/2015   06:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Damian to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Fortunately I have them with me.
Here are the measures:
H: 5 mm
M: 4,75 mm
C: 4 mm
o: 1,75 mm

Hopefully this leads somewhere...
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Posted 01/29/2015   07:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PoStat4evR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
HM/Co = Hollins Mill Co Ltd., Manchester
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Posted 01/29/2015   09:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Damian to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you very much!
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Posted 01/29/2015   12:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scotzm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
as already mentioned, the Tomkins will help identify around 10,000 perfins. The identities of the other 20,000 (approx) known to exist are the problematic ones.
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Posted 01/29/2015   1:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PoStat4evR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The newer catalog updates it big time... or so I am told. Haven't picked up my copy yet, but will in May or so...
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