Hungary Porto

Unable to locate these in a catalogue.

Look in Scott classic specialized at Hungary Scott E1 special delivery stamps issue of the Monarchy in 1916. Note the overprints and surcharges statement that leads to special delivery stamp Scott 2NE1 overprinted in 1919. These were issued under Romanian occupation of 1919.

Is that really the one, though? There's only one value listed in Scott (with no picture) for that overprint vs. the two pictured here, plus "PORTO" means postage due, doesn't it? Wouldn't it have a "J" somewhere in the prefix?

Scott also mentions 11NJ7-J8 for the postage due overprint as you suggest but the picture does not match. This may be one for Hungary for Stamps.

I couldn't find these in SG either. The occupation stamps usually have various motifs, rather than a simple numerical overprint.

Not a valid postal item ,looks like someone playing with a stamp pad kit .

No stamp pad here... these are over-printed.

There were postage due provisional stamps with hand stamps applied locally in 1918 due to shortages from WWI. The provisional hand stamps were used starting in June 1918 until banned in November 1918. Generally, the hand stamps varied, usually appearing as a large "T" or "P" or as "PORTO" in a circle or oval. I haven't seen this particular type of overprint so at this time can't vouch for their authenticity.

You won't find these porto overprints in a standard catalog, though notes are mentioned in the Hungarian catalog and SG. A specialized study/article probably needs to be consulted. I'll look around my materials and see if I have something. I know I've seen reference to an article covering 1918 porto hand stamps, but I don't have a copy.

Here's a previous post on the topic with some images of the normal Porto hand stamps of the period.

https://goscf.com/t/28941

After I WW there were made many private overprints (speculative reasons).
Here are a few examples- PDF file, page 6, under 4th paragraph:
4. Csalások, csinálmányok és hamisitások. - cheat, made, forged.
(under this group there are presented overprints made without the knowledge of the postal authority, to deceive or for their own pleasure. No philatelic material!)
On ebay occasionally you can find such overprints, I remember for example the last one presented here (Nagyszeben).
This must be one such overprint.

http://www.mafitt.hu/org/hagyomanyo...201002ny.pdf

Those two stamps in the first posting look to be created ---after the fact . Someone made that overprint .That statement about a STAMP PAD means someone other ,then the postal authories created them .If you disagree ,explain why !!
Here are the early postage due overprints from my collection which someone else was talking about .