Deep Brown Or Pale Brown? Hong Kong #1

Is there a place online I can compare color on a Hong Kong #1?

JESS ----Go to SANDAFAYRE stamp auctions , sale 5237 , lot 6834 will have both shades of brown next to each other .

http://www.stampworld.com/en/stamps/Hong-Kong/

has-light brown/dark brown
1862 Queen Victoria - Not Watermarked
8. December WM: None Perforation: 14

floortrader - Would you mind confirming if the picture below is consistent with that auction listing? It must be a completed auction and I'm having trouble finding it.


LarryBruce - Thanks for the link. So here's the two from stampworld. They're saying the LEFT stamp is LIGHT brown, and the right is dark brown... Maybe it's just my computer, but that seems backwards. Especially when Scott describes the "light brown" as "pale brown", which seems like a better description of the right-hand stamp. I guess my question is, does stampworld have this right?

Jess ----go to STAMP AUCTION NETWORK ......then go down the page ,on the right side is CLOSEING SOON .....it is the top listing under the CLOSEING SOON . If you still have problems ,then I will scan my copies in the morning ,or better scan yours and a few of us will call the shade .

Thanks, floortrader. Found it. I'm posting the pic here for easy reference.

So here's what they say. 1.light, 2.dark. It looks the opposite from stampworld. (if indeed the second stamp at SW is even brown)

It may be easier to see a scan of the stamp you have.

BTW, is it no watermark of watermarked Crown CC,

Pagoda

Gee fellows I really don't like these scans of that stamp . I think a clearer picture is needed plus something to compare it to in the same scan ,to me they are poor quality pictures to judge from . Let me work on something .

JessEm

As pagoda says, you first need to establish whether or not there's a watermark. The stamp was issued without watermark in 1862 in brown. A copy in deep brown appeared in 1863. These fall under SG 1 and 1a. It then appeared again after 1863 with the watermark of a crown over CC. With that watermark, SG lists it in deep brown, brown and pale yellowish brown. (S 8, 8a and 8b).

Geoff

Ok, I will check into the watermark. This was categorized as no.1 in album I removed it from, but I should start by verifying that.

According to Gibbons the no watermark 2c. doesn't exist used in Foochow (F1) as the Post Office in Foochow wasn't opened until 1866 which is during the period of the CC watermark. Gibbons list the 2c. Brown as s.g. Z313 at 38 Pounds,

Pagoda

Floortrader,

the 2nd. stamp with the YI of Yokohama is presumably watermarked Crown CC and not the 1st. issue but the 2nd. issue.

Pagoda

Pagoda, Is there a conclusion I can make from this about my stamp? Sorry if I'm missing the obvious. Thank you.

JessEm,

Yes, it has an FI cancel of Foochow which is only known used on the 2nd. issue, Crown CC 2c. and not on the 1st. Issue No Watermark 2c.

Pagoda